also I'm fairly utilitarian in orientation, so I don't mind making deals with the devil if it benefits everyone else more than the devil
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Replying to @talyarkoni @sTeamTraen and
Maybe if there were no other option, but there are. Further, I draw the line when the devil contributed to state-sponsored atrocities.
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Replying to @aeryn_thrace @sTeamTraen and
the people responsible were sacked, the APA itself commissioned the most damning report, and it substantially revised its code of ethics.
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Replying to @talyarkoni @aeryn_thrace and
I don't get this one-and-done policy. if you applied it evenly, you would refuse to do business with almost every government on the planet
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Replying to @talyarkoni @aeryn_thrace and
I mean, the US govt was *chiefly* responsible for the torture; does that mean a moral individual shouldn't live in post-torture US?
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Replying to @talyarkoni @aeryn_thrace and
I think the point was the different people draw lines at different places on the moral landscape. APA might become good or even already be
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Replying to @o_guest @talyarkoni and
good but it's interesting to note certain people /groups have gone from APA is terrible for making us take down pdfs etc to it's amazing.
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Replying to @o_guest @aeryn_thrace and
it's possible to have mixed feelings about an organization, right? you can say "I don't like you, but I think what you're doing is great."
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Replying to @talyarkoni @o_guest and
I didn't like APA before this and I won't like it after this, but I think on balance this is probably in the best interest of the community
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Replying to @talyarkoni @aeryn_thrace and
Yes, that's my point. Mixed feelings and nuance aren't what certain groups originally projected.
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Can't comment on what's best for the community as I don't feel like I am a member, not to the extent I can draw such conclusions.
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