I wonder if someone can make a graph showing proportion of preprints with 1 or more comment. Suspect it's a low %
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It would be amazing if people made this graph. It would allow us to focus on more meaningful topics like how preprints are used to reenact
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existing power structures and how to change this.
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Because at the present a lot of preprint supporters deny this problem.
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This problem is serious and open science in and off itself, and the success of preprints, depend on understanding what's going on.
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I'm definitely a preep supporter, but I hear you for sure. What leads you to think feedback going to "better" labs (I read whole thread)?
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What I see when I browse preprints.
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Also I don't blame you but I doubt you actually read the whole thread because of how shitty Twitter threads are. We covered this specific
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(I have no idea what the solution to this is supposed to be, or even what a 'solution' would look like...)
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problems should still be acknowledged, even when solution may not exist, of course. And this point is not widely discussed.
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yeah, there probably is no solution to the problem of meritocracy if you take that to be the primary problem.
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but it's actually a two-fold (or multi-fold) problem here of how preprints are presented, panacea, replacement for PR, etc so many proposals
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this has all been touched on quite a lot in this thread and I suggest you take a look rather than me re-hashing it
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I don't think this objection can be avoided for *any* thing that lowers the costs of entering competition.
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This is more an objection to the rhetoric and not a real objection to preprint in and of themselves. I personally have benefited greatly
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My attempts to raise this concern have been received poorly. And yet my experience is that preprints are sometimes/often ignored.
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My attempts within psychology and neuroscience to raise quite a few issues with lack of open science principles being adhered to by
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so-called supporters have also often been taken very badly. I'm nor surprised at all though. People don't like being called out.
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