But we *do* want to reward th people who are already embracing these practices + set signal for ECRs, no?
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Replying to @dingding_peng @cMadan and
Exactly. As I wrote last year, recognising open practices in hiring policies is crucial for shifting incentives http://neurochambers.blogspot.co.uk/2016/02/my-commitment-to-open-science-is.html …
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Replying to @chrisdc77 @dingding_peng and
Equally, it's important that different institutions/PIs etc can set expectations for applicants appropriately according to circumstances >
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> which is why Felix and I are developing a modular certification scheme where employers choose their level:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ty43Syw0Flkh8ncjW8MZArIkvYe8hLwwhLlIwbtSk_Y/edit …
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Replying to @chrisdc77 @dingding_peng and
I think my point was a little finer. Of course it's great to see open stuff being promoted.
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There's a difference between an phd student knowing about & wanting to do eg preprints and being allowed to post one by their PI.
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Some people might not have backing from their PI during phd to do open science so they would be less qualified for this job even though
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their will would be strong to do open stuff post phd. This is what
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Replying to @o_guest @dingding_peng and
Yes they would be less qualified and less likely to get the post, and that's kind of the point as far I'm concerned. With wide uptake this >
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> will put pressure on PIs to adopt open science and will also ensure that the next generation of senior scientists practice open science.
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I worry about people being left behind, who are neither students nor PIs but as you say I don't worry too much. I don't think openness is
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Replying to @o_guest @chrisdc77 and
the only thing some people are left behind on.
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Replying to @o_guest @dingding_peng and
Agree. Plus those who do closed practices get many traditional "benefits". Valuing open practices helps level the playing field.
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