It does mention "plan to pursue in the future", but I agree, that's likely less competitive than having actually done it already
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But we *do* want to reward th people who are already embracing these practices + set signal for ECRs, no?
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Exactly. As I wrote last year, recognising open practices in hiring policies is crucial for shifting incentives http://neurochambers.blogspot.co.uk/2016/02/my-commitment-to-open-science-is.html …
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Replying to @chrisdc77 @dingding_peng and
Equally, it's important that different institutions/PIs etc can set expectations for applicants appropriately according to circumstances >
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> which is why Felix and I are developing a modular certification scheme where employers choose their level:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ty43Syw0Flkh8ncjW8MZArIkvYe8hLwwhLlIwbtSk_Y/edit …
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Replying to @chrisdc77 @dingding_peng and
I think my point was a little finer. Of course it's great to see open stuff being promoted.
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There's a difference between an phd student knowing about & wanting to do eg preprints and being allowed to post one by their PI.
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Replying to @o_guest @dingding_peng and
This is why the hiring policy we're proposing is modular, so that a PI can set less stringent pre-job conditions for more junior roles >
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> but can raise expectations for more senior positions. e.g. for me, I would happily take an RA or PhD student with no open sci experience >
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> but I wouldn't interview anyone for a post doc who doesn't have proven open sci chops. It is too fundamental to my group's activities.
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Google docs are hard to read on phone. And of course, as I said some jobs might rightfully require experience. This job @chbergma explained
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is tenured so obviously they need experienced applicants.
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Replying to @o_guest @dingding_peng and
Yep. As I see it, this is all fundamentally about placing open sci practices at the heart of science, not just an add-on or optional bonus.
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