No absolutely, this needs to have consequences. I was thinking more about the novice that tries very hard and just isn't doing it "correctly
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By this I mean that the leaked data used to promote a biased viewpoint caused a "gut" reaction in many of "support" instead of someth else.
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Sorry meant to say "Certainly was NOT ignored"!
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What was ignored, which is what I think Rik is trying to get at, is this the gut/initial reaction and in part hiding behind openscience.
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yeah I was saying that you shouldered so much responsibility b/c others (incl me) were apathetic about it or ignoring responsibility to help
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Yes, but I really appreciate those including you who have stepped up.

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once you'd given me a ladder and taught me to climb

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This is a lot of thread but I'm just gonna say that EK was not a wistful naïf who tried real hard but messed up.
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He has a patter of outwardly racist research that begs the question, zero concern for research ethics, and cavaliet dismissal of critique.
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He doesn't want to be a member of the OS/OD communities. He wants to use it as a smokescreen for racism.
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Whatever point is being made about OS/OD here, EK is not an exemplar of any of it. He is flatly immoral, and tries to use OS to cover that.
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yup we're all on the same page about that - I think we're introspecting about how to handle it better in future
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TBH I think it got handled well in real time. One important takeaway: ethic of openness doesn't override ethics of research and science.
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Most important thing is to not lose forest for trees because we're so dogmatic/attached to openness principle
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Indeedy! He's been releasing shit again if you noticed. And when I said we should call him out some OS ppl reacted by saying "we aren't a
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