Many communities are self-selected and even though gatekeeping can be bad if done badly it can also be good.
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Replying to @o_guest @blahah404
Sure, if transparent, as you say. I guess the line has to be drawn at the extremes, but dissenting voices can be good for group cohesion.
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Replying to @froggleston @blahah404
I think it's even more complex than that.
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"Dissent" (rhetoric, propaganda) that involves excluding URMs is only good for cohesion if you redefine cohesion to "just us white bros".
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Replying to @o_guest @blahah404
It can redefine cohesion boundaries. If the way the boundary is going *as a group* is bad, exclude the dissenter (total over-simplification)
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Replying to @froggleston @blahah404
Yeah, but that not in my experience how this manifests ever.
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What usually happens, in my exp, is that a bigot is usually not really that much debated against or told to shut up.
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And even though the group in their minds might think "it's OK" if they were not target, the URMs think "ugh not for me" and speak less.
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All these thoughts are either explicit or usually implicit, meaning that less speaking up occurs without URMs & others realising exactly why
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...they just think it's status quo but really the group is whittled down to just the bros talking bro shit. I've seen it more than enough
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times. Even in classes where the gender is 50/50 the dudes think they are better at coding and the women tend to believe them. Even when I'm
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the one doing the marking so I know the real score. Just an example, but it's very common for rhetoric to be hijacked.
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