i mean, what's a computer? searle once put a pen on a desk saying: "it's a computer with a simple program: stay there."
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omg what a wank
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lots of arguments against comp theory take some property of a computer and show that the brain does not have it, so one needs to clarify.
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When you say a computer though you mean a PC? When I say computer I mean formalised definition of Turing Machine which is based on person.
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Replying to @o_guest @maria_ndrnh and
Sorry to jump in, but how is your argument sounder than bad ones based on PCs? Why TMs and not say Lambda calculus? ...
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Replying to @kaznatcheev @o_guest and
... lambda calculus is not "clearly" simulating people, in the sense TM was...
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Replying to @kaznatcheev @maria_ndrnh and
Fair point, but what I mean is any computational system is in some way simulating what the brain does, because they both compute.
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Replying to @o_guest @maria_ndrnh and
then why didn't you like the analogy of a pen on table computing the function "stay here"?...
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Replying to @kaznatcheev @maria_ndrnh and
Is it just me that feels this is turning slightly personal?
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Replying to @o_guest @maria_ndrnh and
Didn't mean it personally. I felt Searle's pen example is physicalists interpretation of CT-thesis (one I disagree with) which is relevant.
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I find Searle's arguments, Chinese room, etc generally very shallow and pathetic attempts although often successful at confusing students.
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