Uh, no. Even hinting that mind = software, brain = hardware (not even sure I agree w that anw) and they get upset.
what Turing built, a computer, to model those women was wrong. But it works and he wasn't. 
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But like I said, I don't particularly want to "decovert" people from their definition of computer or convince anything I am right.
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I don't actually believe in convincing people in many cases as I don't think it's a valuable exercise.

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haha, i love scientific debate and i often leave debates with a different point of view, i just don't like when things get personal
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I don't mind them but I need to get work done.
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