Each to their own. And I certainly would never argue that dualism is correct.
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A Turing Machine was literally created as a computational/mathematical definition of what the women who worked at Bletchley park did.
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So to say the brain is not a computer you would, in my opinion, have to show it doesn't compute. And that would demonstrate (somehow) that
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what Turing built, a computer, to model those women was wrong. But it works and he wasn't.

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But like I said, I don't particularly want to "decovert" people from their definition of computer or convince anything I am right.
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I don't actually believe in convincing people in many cases as I don't think it's a valuable exercise.

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haha, i love scientific debate and i often leave debates with a different point of view, i just don't like when things get personal
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I don't mind them but I need to get work done.
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Sorry to jump in, but how is your argument sounder than bad ones based on PCs? Why TMs and not say Lambda calculus? ...
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... lambda calculus is not "clearly" simulating people, in the sense TM was...
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Fair point, but what I mean is any computational system is in some way simulating what the brain does, because they both compute.
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This is why I am not 100% interested in convincing people because many people disagree that the brain computes. I believe it computes cos
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for me that is literally what the definition of computes is.
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I think disagreement centers around this issue: some people do not agree with me that the brain computes. And I'm OK with that. But to argue
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that computing and brain-ing (whatever function the brain carries) out are not of the same type, is something I am genuinely not interested
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in pursuing. I think it's a matter of how one sees the world. One either thinks of computation as something the brain does not they don't.
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i don't have a strong opinion on this, it's not my field, but does anyone argue that the brain works like a pc?
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Yes, those who (in my opinion) want to strawman me/others who think like me. See for example Ray Tallis.
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some revolves around "computers are modular, the brain is not modular, hence the brain is not a computer" kind of thing, that's a strawman
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Also the brain is modular just not strictly so. We can V1 V1 for a reason, etc etc.

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*call — not can
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