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    Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 11 Apr 2017
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    Just me or is this stringe? Why is preprint discussed before peer-review? [Pop]sci media really thinks this is OK? http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/04/study-finds-significant-differences-brains-men-and-women …

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      2. ⓪ Rik Smith-Unna  🇰🇪‏ @blahah404 11 Apr 2017
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        is peer review a good filter for what's newsworthy? looking at the literature s remarkable amount of crap passes peer review...

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      3. ⓪ Rik Smith-Unna  🇰🇪‏ @blahah404 11 Apr 2017
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        so I feel like a preprint is as valid a source for news as something peer reviewed

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      4. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 11 Apr 2017
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        In this specific case I see no critical thinking at all though.

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      5. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 11 Apr 2017
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        Are you against peer review in principle or just the current state of it?

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      6. ⓪ Rik Smith-Unna  🇰🇪‏ @blahah404 11 Apr 2017
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        not against peers reviewing each others work, but against it being a precondition for sharing, being secret, and being revered as truth

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      7. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 11 Apr 2017
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        Agreed.

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      8. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 11 Apr 2017
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        Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ Retweeted Gavin Buckingham

        See this subthreadhttps://twitter.com/DrGBuckingham/status/851773106918174720 …

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        Gavin Buckingham @DrGBuckingham
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        This is an inevitable consequence of preprints. F9r better or worse depending on viewpoint
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      2. James Yearsley‏ @jmyearsley 11 Apr 2017
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        Important Qs but don't agree. Maybe perspective of subject where preprints novel? Physics has been doing this successfully 4 years

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      3. James Yearsley‏ @jmyearsley 11 Apr 2017
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        Perhaps could turn question on its head: If you can't discuss till after review, what's the point of preprints?

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      4. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 11 Apr 2017
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        I never said can't discuss. I am merely very surprised by the lack of a critical take.

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      5. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 11 Apr 2017
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        A tweet doesn't allow for too much nuance or for me to expand mu thoughts — the thread/subthreads that follow under the OP expand my take.

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      6. James Yearsley‏ @jmyearsley 11 Apr 2017
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        Fair enough. Danger of tweeting past each other always high! Still, sounds like u wanted 2 make specific point about being preprint

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      7. James Yearsley‏ @jmyearsley 11 Apr 2017
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        Here's my tuppence worth: Whenever I read any MS I make a judgment about how much faith to put in results.

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      8. James Yearsley‏ @jmyearsley 11 Apr 2017
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        Many factors influence this, inc whether published. SciCom writers do the same. Credulity is a judgment call.

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      9. James Yearsley‏ @jmyearsley 11 Apr 2017
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        Equally lack of critical appraisal not specific to reports on preprints. So meh basically.

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      2. Patrick S. Forscher‏ @psforscher 11 Apr 2017
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        I'm gonna be contrarian here and say there's nothing wrong or bad about discussing a preprint with a journalist

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      3. Patrick S. Forscher‏ @psforscher 11 Apr 2017
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        A preprint represents your provisional best guess about a subject -- just like a conventional publication

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      4. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 11 Apr 2017
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        you think it's equivalent to a post-review paper?

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      5. Patrick S. Forscher‏ @psforscher 11 Apr 2017
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        Pretty much, except a few people have commented on it. I don't have much faith that the peer review process adds much to publications

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      6. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 11 Apr 2017
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        Fair enough.

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      7. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 11 Apr 2017
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        Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ Retweeted

        If I may, this thread might be useful: https://twitter.com/kopshtik/status/851773894117556224 …

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