in my previous place they taught C++ in the 1st semester. :) I got all but fired for arguing against, as it was HoD's brainchild
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ahahahahahah I actually don't hate C++ as much as you but I haven't used it at all. I did do all my PhD in C which was painful.
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one needs a lawyer to argue about correctness of certain c++ constructs. I recall a 1000-page commentary on c++ standard!
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fucking hell I believe you
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At least it's open source? :-)
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People keep telling me modern Fortran is actually quite a nice language, but I've yet to be brave enough to verify this.
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I'm RT'ing that just to see what comes of it.

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(or, more accurately, has good open source implementations and libraries)
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fortran nowadays has about 1, half-dead, opensource implementation: gfortran.
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half-zombie full-brain-pain
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well... Shit.
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