yeah, I made this point somewhere today too. Exactly. 
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Replying to @o_guest
so i think there is something to be said for a top-down approach for user friendliness
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Replying to @elneurozorro
even though I just use pip. I'm glad for the above too. Better communities when more inclusive.
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Replying to @o_guest
on linux? me too, it works great. not so on mac. partially their own fault though, haha.
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Replying to @elneurozorro
yeah I'm confused by mac still... We own a bunch but I don't develop on them often.
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Replying to @o_guest
everyone is like, but but use homebrew. but as nice as it is, its like putting a band aid on someone with internal bleeding.
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Replying to @elneurozorro
I use homebrew because I don't actually develop on a Mac and just want shit to run and I guess I'm bad
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Replying to @o_guest
no no, i do too on mac. its great, just saying having a "proper" package manager is a lovely thing to come back to.
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Replying to @o_guest
im gonna go back to work with this wonderful gif of linus torvalds flipping of nvidia http://i.makeagif.com/media/7-18-2015/mI_U5W.gif …
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he sometimes says bad things but that's prefect
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