and doing the "well every barrel has some bad apples!!!" thing is also garbage because we enable that a fair amount of the time
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(please don't do the complete the idiom mansplaining thing on that thanks)
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there are a bunch of shit garbage left cliques that hang out together but they don't glom together like the right wing ones do
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and they usually fall apart and tear each other down regularly enough that they don't stick for long
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(the bad part of this is that this kind of thing tends to eliminate vulnerable people way faster than everyone else)
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(so you get an extra layer of shittiness to exclude marginalized voices)
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(which of course leads to all the liberal dudes whining about free speech for fascists)
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(because they are able to keep an echo chamber of only people who don't know their ass from their elbow on that shit)
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anyway almost all the Big Voices on this stuff suck because marginalization is real and keeps happening even once you start writing
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and also pretty much every community shelters toxic people and bigots and abusers and we gotta be better about cleaning our own houses
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