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    1. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 11 Oct 2016
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      in my opinion it's part of design technology and engineering.

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    2. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 11 Oct 2016
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      I don't think cognitive science for example is or contains reverse engineering the mind.

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    3. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 11 Oct 2016
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      I suppose a good q might be what do you think it's a prime/typical/famous example of reverse engineering?

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    4. Julie J. Lee‏ @synapticlee 11 Oct 2016
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      no worries- was thinking of it in the sense of e.g. classically figuring out a radio. Then it's hypothesis testing

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    5. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 11 Oct 2016
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      do you consider figuring out a radio as reverse engineering? For me the process is about rebuilding it.

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    6. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 11 Oct 2016
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      so figuring it out, yes, science. Rebuilding it, no.

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    7. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 11 Oct 2016
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      hence why in my opinion it's called reverse engineering. Because goal is to (re) build original item.

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    8. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 11 Oct 2016
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      in sci we don't build eg computers. That building bit is where design tech & engineering starts.

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    9. Julie J. Lee‏ @synapticlee 11 Oct 2016
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      ok agreed on that one. just to me "rev X" is not necessarily "X" but if "rev eng" was "eng in reverse" then agreed

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    10. Julie J. Lee‏ @synapticlee 11 Oct 2016
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      [160 char brevity!] specifically, agree that sci =/= eng. not sure if rev eng is in set of eng. but if it is, agreed sci =/=rev eng

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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 11 Oct 2016
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      a lot of/most eng esp materials science has been reverse engineering imho. Like when Europeans were figuring out porcelain.

      12:47 AM - 11 Oct 2016
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        2. Julie J. Lee‏ @synapticlee 11 Oct 2016
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          sorry, forgot about the convo! In this sense would you consider modelling as reverse engineering?

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        3. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 11 Oct 2016
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          no cos to me modelling is about understanding. A model is not a copy. A direct copy of a brain is another brain. I can create

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        4. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 11 Oct 2016
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          a human brain in 9 months. Does creating a child make me a good modeller? (Facetious question but perhaps needed.) No.

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        5. David JONES‏ @drjtwit 11 Oct 2016
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          the baby comment is immensely distracting. they are made neither by copying nor by reverse engineering.

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        6. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 11 Oct 2016
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          but they would be the best model for a previous participant. ;)

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        7. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 11 Oct 2016
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          I feel like you both (?) or at least just D thinks that this the first time I have come across this argument. It's a

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        8. Julie J. Lee‏ @synapticlee 11 Oct 2016
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          I lost what the argument was - can you summarise? Rev eng is not science? Or rev eng is not understanding?

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        9. David JONES‏ @drjtwit 11 Oct 2016
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          I stopped when I realised I had no idea what the argument was.

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        1. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 11 Oct 2016
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          another problem is that words like science and engineering are used confusingly and inconsistently. 😂

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