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    1. Chris Chambers‏Verified account @chrisdc77 26 Sep 2016
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      True, however as I see it the key pt isn't the overall rate of ret's but the relative difference in ret rates b/w fields

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    2. Daniël Lakens‏Verified account @lakens 26 Sep 2016
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      OK, that's indeed a difference. But I was mainly responding to idea that bad idea = retration. Done nowhere.

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    3. Chris Chambers‏Verified account @chrisdc77 26 Sep 2016
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      Indeed, I don't think anyone argues that is the case. More a matter of field-dependent differences in error tolerance.

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    4. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 26 Sep 2016
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      Replying to @chrisdc77 @lakens @JoeHilgard

      I don't get why it shouldn't be retracted in your opinions? Or am I misreading? 🙃

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    5. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 26 Sep 2016
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      Replying to @o_guest @chrisdc77 and

      ok looking back I now see more tweets, so you mean perhaps it should be but pr and low bar mean it won't be &

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    6. Daniël Lakens‏Verified account @lakens 26 Sep 2016
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      I mean it should not be. We don't retract studies that turn out to be wrong. Science = progress, not an end result.

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    7. Sascha Griffiths‏ @SaschaGriffiths 26 Sep 2016
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      Umberto Eco has a nice passage on this in his book "How to Write a Thesis".

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    8. Sascha Griffiths‏ @SaschaGriffiths 26 Sep 2016
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      .@lakens @o_guest Hypotheses are only complete if the authors define criteria by which they can be proven false.

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    9. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 27 Sep 2016
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      Replying to @SaschaGriffiths @lakens

      not all scientists are Popperian

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    10. Sascha Griffiths‏ @SaschaGriffiths 27 Sep 2016
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      Replying to @o_guest @lakens

      That may be true but we have to agree on some rules otherwise we can't play. I would consider Eco strongly Popperian, btw.

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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 27 Sep 2016
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      Replying to @SaschaGriffiths @lakens

      most people in psy if I'm not mistaken are not Popperian, much more likely to be Bayesian or Kuhnian or Lakatosian.

      2:19 AM - 27 Sep 2016
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        2. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 27 Sep 2016
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          and no we actually don't have to agree that's the beauty of science. I don't think there's been a point in history

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        3. Sascha Griffiths‏ @SaschaGriffiths 27 Sep 2016
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          That muddies the waters wrt retraction criteria. ;-) I agree with @lakens, it's about the continuous progress in knowledge.

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        4. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 27 Sep 2016
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          Replying to @SaschaGriffiths @lakens

          journals can have explicit and social psychology itself can have implicit rules for retraction.

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        5. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 27 Sep 2016
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          Replying to @o_guest @SaschaGriffiths @lakens

          I can also think it should be retracted using my own metrics. Science is not a monolith but it's also irrelevant.

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        6. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 27 Sep 2016
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          Replying to @o_guest @SaschaGriffiths @lakens

          very little is uniform, consensus changes, paradigm shifts happen. That's not relevant unless you think p hacking

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        7. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 27 Sep 2016
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          will become accepted as ok, I suppose.

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        8. Sascha Griffiths‏ @SaschaGriffiths 27 Sep 2016
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          Not become as my impression was that it is becoming "less accepted".

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        9. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 27 Sep 2016
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          Replying to @SaschaGriffiths @lakens

          it seems like some p hacks are acceptable as a function of which subfield of psychology they are attempted in

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        2. Sascha Griffiths‏ @SaschaGriffiths 27 Sep 2016
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          Replying to @o_guest @lakens

          I myself must admit that I am a huge fan of Popper. I don't think of myself as a Popperian, though.

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        3. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 27 Sep 2016
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          Replying to @SaschaGriffiths @lakens

          fair enough, I read a lot of Feyerabend I don't think I'll be against method any time soon. 👍

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        4. Sascha Griffiths‏ @SaschaGriffiths 27 Sep 2016
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          Replying to @o_guest @lakens

          I've been exposed to postmodern anthropology and used to read a lot of Chomskyan linguistics. I'm all for method now.

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