It's tiring sometimes talking to phd students. So many think that eg preprints promote scooping, or writing papers well is upsetting... 
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that's horrifying; real damage.
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and this was not in my lab btw but I've heard similar within it
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unsupervised phd students are not uncommon, haha..
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I think combination of very naive and overconfident so everything they didn't know was on show including their assumptions
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this is orthogonal to good/bad supervision, which is also probably bad in this case like you say
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