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    1. Iris van Rooij‏ @IrisVanRooij Jul 20
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      Iris van Rooij Retweeted Chris Beckett

      I'm notice that difficulty of grasping this obstructs understanding. 'White privilege' doesn't mean you have no struggles in life. Everyone does! It just means that being white is not the reason for them; while non-white people have extra struggles *because* they are *not* white.https://twitter.com/Xristos_Protos/status/1152618370086424577 …

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      Chris Beckett @Xristos_Protos
      Replying to @Xristos_Protos @Abebab
      "Furthermore, the subject is extremely difficult to talk about because many white people don’t feel powerful or as if they have privileges others do not." Understanding White Privilege (Kendall 2002). 2/2
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    2. big phd energy‏ @loltistic Jul 20
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      Seems disingenuous to suggest that calling out white privilege implies white people have zero struggles. They do try to say that they think this is what it means but just making this ridiculous argument is an illustration of how whiteness lets you get away with nonsense

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    3. big phd energy‏ @loltistic Jul 20
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      Privilege in general. Men saying they think people talking about male privilege think men have no struggles or challenges are not being earnest

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    4. Iris van Rooij‏ @IrisVanRooij Jul 20
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      Replying to @loltistic

      My most charitable speculation is it's a (non-reflective) ego-defense tactic. If one never realized one may have privilege on dimensions where others don't, then admitting that takes a sea-change in ones view of the world, of oneself, and of one's place in the world. That's hard

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    5. big phd energy‏ @loltistic Jul 20
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      I find this especially charitable BC it implies this process of taking in information about other people’s views and reconciling them with your own naturally demands this sort of loud ass ego defense, when ppl without privilege are definitionally not given space to defend theirs

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    6. big phd energy‏ @loltistic Jul 20
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      Replying to @loltistic @IrisVanRooij

      The choice of tactic is itself an expression of the privilege they are protesting

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    7. Iris van Rooij‏ @IrisVanRooij Jul 20
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      Replying to @loltistic

      I'm afraid all defense tactics of any form (derailments, reverse racism/sexism, both sideism, white tears, etc etc) are expressions of their privilege, since they can get away with any such tactics (and even get sympathy for hurt feelings!) only because of that privilege 😔

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    8. big phd energy‏ @loltistic Jul 20
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      Replying to @IrisVanRooij

      My point is that the process of even considering these tactics is being erased with the assertion that they are chosen because it’s difficult to cope with their feelings. It’s a combination of wanting to cope and feeling *entitled* to use these tactics.

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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 23h23 hours ago
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      Replying to @loltistic @IrisVanRooij

      Yes, for sure. The fact that certain people are a given a buffet of charitable interpretations (which require those whom the views are harming to think of) for their BS words and actions is a manifestation of privilege.

      11:00 PM - 20 Jul 2019
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        2. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 23h23 hours ago
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          Replying to @o_guest @loltistic @IrisVanRooij

          Boiling down to a very simple example: If a person says a sexist thing and others try to think of how it can be charitably interpreted, that's privilege. It's the system trying to create a space for which sexist views can be seen as, e.g., "oh, OK, just another slip, oopps".

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        3. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 23h23 hours ago
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          And that then creates a playing field in which women who are most harmed by these views have less or no charity extended to them in general and in life but those who promote these "edgy" views have others doing labour for them to allow their continued expression.

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        4. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 23h23 hours ago
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          This is why I am uncomfortable in the idea of promoting charitable interpretations across the board, without deep thought — because as with anything social it will advantage certain people over others.

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