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    1. Jade Pickering‏ @Jade_Pickering Jul 19
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      Hot take: #bropenscience *is* sexist...and alienates the very people that we want on our side. Science is, objectively, dominated by men, but I'm not sure this is the right approach. It feels a little bit like if we got called "lady scientists". Dismissed by gender.

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    2. Richard D. Morey‏ @richarddmorey Jul 19
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      Replying to @Jade_Pickering

      As I see it (@o_guest can correct me) it is not about *being* male (so "lady scientists" is not analogous); it is about a particular way that masculine acculturation and behaviour intersects with the open science movement. It is a critique of a brand of masculinity, not males.

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    3. Jade Pickering‏ @Jade_Pickering Jul 19
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      Replying to @richarddmorey @o_guest

      I couldn't think of a better analogous term so yeah maybe, but that misses the point. My point was more that a gendered term is being used for the *purpose* of exclusion. It doesn't mean "men", I know that, but it *implies* it just enough to be counterproductive.

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    4. Richard D. Morey‏ @richarddmorey Jul 19
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      Replying to @Jade_Pickering @o_guest

      You should consider the possibility that you don’t understand how the term is used, and ask the people that use it whether you’ve got it right.

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    5. Daniel E Bradford‏ @Daniel_Brad4d Jul 19
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      Replying to @richarddmorey @Jade_Pickering @o_guest

      Isn’t part of the point that people can (and are) misunderstanding the term?

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    6. Richard D. Morey‏ @richarddmorey Jul 19
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      Replying to @Daniel_Brad4d @Jade_Pickering @o_guest

      It was asserted that it was sexist and used for the purpose of exclusion.

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    7. Daniel E Bradford‏ @Daniel_Brad4d Jul 19
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      Replying to @richarddmorey @Jade_Pickering @o_guest

      I think it is certainly very easy to perceive it that way given the term so I understand any confusion. Usually women aren’t called “bros”. If I coined a term “RichBayesians” I wouldn’t blame anyone for thinking I was talking about economic status.

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    8. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jul 19
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      Replying to @Daniel_Brad4d @richarddmorey @Jade_Pickering

      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ Retweeted Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ

      IMHO this is akin to saying LGBT pride is homophobic against straight people. Because...https://twitter.com/o_guest/status/1152260361296523267?s=19 …

      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ added,

      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ @o_guest
      Replying to @o_guest @richarddmorey @Jade_Pickering
      Saying #bropenscience is sexist against men IMHO fundamentally misuses the term "sexism". Sexism is a bias towards favouring men, towards androcentricity.
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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jul 19
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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ Retweeted Danielle Navarro

      Also may useful to read Danielle's thread here (linking to the end, please scroll up):https://twitter.com/djnavarro/status/1144893472974856192?s=19 …

      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ added,

      Danielle Navarro @djnavarro
      Replying to @djnavarro @LennartVerhagen and 4 others
      If you don't like using #bropenscience as a call out of bad behaviour by "bros", okay. But if you care about the "bread and roses" view of open science, then maybe your time is better spent promoting a positive vision of our community than on nitpicking Olivia's wording? (8/8)
      3:33 PM - 19 Jul 2019
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      • james (he/mx.) Danielle Navarro Iris van Rooij
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