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    1. Brad Wyble‏ @bradpwyble Jul 18
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      If by mindreading you mean "inferring someone's attitudes from their behavior" then yes. Society is complex and behavior cannot be judged solely by sticking to specific rules about language usage. That's a starting point, but we also need to interpret patterns of behavior

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    2. Brad Wyble‏ @bradpwyble Jul 18
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      Replying to @bradpwyble @PsychRabble @wgervais

      you and I may have different definitions of mindreading though.

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    3. Lee Jussim‏ @PsychRabble Jul 18
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      No, I don't think we do. I think we have different views of the appropriateness of mindreading. Behavior is actionable. Attitudes are not. People are often woefully awful at reading other's minds; it is offensive because it is presumptuous. As such, it is also corrosive.

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    4. Brad Wyble‏ @bradpwyble Jul 18
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      And yet it is necessary in many cases, because there are plenty of people who learn how to enact offensive/discriminatory policies while still obeying the letter of the law with respect to guidelines. e.g. bullying behavior can take many forms.

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    5. Brad Wyble‏ @bradpwyble Jul 18
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      Replying to @bradpwyble @PsychRabble @wgervais

      also @spiantado could point out an example where institutional rules are followed (technically) even though aggregate behavior is truly awful. This kind of thing happens all the time. Letting people off the hook because they didn't use bad words or commit a crime: not good enough

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    6. Lee Jussim‏ @PsychRabble Jul 18
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      As long as you are talking about manifest, observable behavior, I am in complete agreement with you. "#bropenscience" is not a description of anyone's behavior. It is a demographic pejorative plausibly described as a slur. "Bro's" are men.

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    7. Brad Wyble‏ @bradpwyble Jul 18
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      Replying to @PsychRabble @wgervais @spiantado

      Bropenscience is definitely about behavior. @o_guest care to comment?

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    8. Lee Jussim‏ @PsychRabble Jul 18
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      Replying to @bradpwyble @wgervais and

      I have no doubt that OG, or anyone else, can come up with examples of bad behavior. Doing so does not justify use of a slur, just as bad behav by an ethnic does not justify slurs. Want me to come up with examples of #scientoxicfeminism? Or should we just discuss behavior?

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    9. Brad Wyble‏ @bradpwyble Jul 18
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      Replying to @PsychRabble @wgervais and

      I wasn't expecting her to provide examples, rather to confirm my assertion that the term is fundamentally about behavior, not demographics (though highly correlated with demographics, of course).

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    10. Brad Wyble‏ @bradpwyble Jul 18
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      Replying to @bradpwyble @PsychRabble and

      And if you want to try to bring scitoxicfeminism into the discourse, I don't think that's offensive, but the burden is on you to define the set of behaviors that it refers to. The reason that BS was so popular is that many people immediately understood what the label applies to

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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jul 18
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      Replying to @bradpwyble @PsychRabble and

      It's about behaviours, indeed.

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