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    1. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jul 18
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      In the past few weeks you may or may not have noticed there has been a new series of tweets, discussions on #bropenscience and diversity and inclusivity in #openscience. Given it's all finally calmed down A BIT (until it's back 😂) I'd like to share what happens every time...

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    2. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jul 18
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      Apart from a lot of us, myself and others, having to constantly rehash issues and explain our experiences (including very negative ones) just to be able to back up the fact that basically we deserve a voice... We also have to deal with trolls...

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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jul 18
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      These trolls are basically obviously most likely probably academics' alternative anonymous accounts and/or their "fans'" troll accounts (based on who they follow, who tweets at us, etc.) and they very obviously go through old tweets (classic necro'ing) & reply to dogpile.

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      • Mark C. james (he/mx.) Marie Robles Artem Kaznatcheev Stella Abeba Birhane Mandy Hannimal 🇪🇺🇬🇧🏳️‍🌈 Esther Mondragón
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        2. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jul 18
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          The pattern of who these trolls follow in science is so predictable. It's always the same constellation of accounts within science Twitter who have such followers. Anyway just saying so people know what we have to deal with. Think of it as a DDoS style attack.

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        3. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jul 18
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          Anyway, just wanted to share. Do with this information anything you want. 🤣

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        4. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jul 18
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          Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ Retweeted Étienne Lançon

          Example:https://twitter.com/EtienneLancon/status/1151779466106085376?s=19 …

          Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ added,

          Étienne Lançon @EtienneLancon
          Replying to @o_guest
          You're aware the core principle of open science is that it's based on volunteering and everybody is welcomed, aren't you ? You're Google, Microsoft, and Facebook ally right now, not women ally.
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        5. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jul 18
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          Also to be clear, these disposable troll accounts are often removed 100% off Twitter since they tend to say pretty vile stuff (and get reported) so it's very hard to keep track of them since banned accounts are completely removed.

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        6. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jul 18
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          It's hilarious, or rather would be, if it wasn't so insidious.pic.twitter.com/MDBVpjnayq

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        7. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jul 18
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          Oh, and my advice/plea/plan is the following if you want to help: if you see an account doing what I describe above. 1) Go through their following list to see if you can figure out which academic they emanate from/are a fan of.

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        8. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jul 18
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          2) Tweet at that academic on the tweet that caused the dogpile. Explain to them with examples and screenshot what they are causing.

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        9. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jul 18
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          3) Report and block the troll accounts. Blocking is important as these trolls use following lists to find more minorities to bother (you can unblock later when it's quitened down).

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        10. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jul 18
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          People need to know some of their followers, the following they cultivate, has sone shit in it. This is why when people unfollow me when I tweet about inclusivity and #bropenscience I'm kind of relieved sometimes.

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        2. Massimo Sandal‏ @massimosandal Jul 18
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          Replying to @o_guest

          Completely tangential question: I've never ever understood the concept of "necroposting", that is why is it poor etiquette to reply to old forum posts or tweets etc. They are there. Why can't they reopen a conversation? Thanks and apologies for the detour 🙂

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        3. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jul 18
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          Replying to @massimosandal

          I think it's the same idea as this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning  There's the issue you want to leave discussion up (like in a forum) but also that you respect the people are done with it (so don't necro). Make sense?

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        4. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jul 18
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          Replying to @o_guest @massimosandal

          @IrisVanRooij has been thinking about this and other bro tactics lately so she might have a better idea!

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        2. Aidan Horner‏ @aidanhorner Jul 18
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          Replying to @o_guest

          I had no idea, which shows my privilege I guess. I'm sorry you and others have to put up with this.

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        3. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jul 18
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          Replying to @aidanhorner

          A really good example is happening to @Abebab right now. 😟

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        4. Stella‏ @MlleLicious Jul 18
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          Replying to @o_guest @aidanhorner @Abebab

          And for those who may not realise :the reason this happens and doesn’t get shut down super fast is because so many people agree with the trolls. Just like the hair color thing now- many men and women who claim to be for equality, will still gatekeep those they see non conforming

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        5. Stella‏ @MlleLicious Jul 18
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          Replying to @MlleLicious @o_guest and

          white women and their desire to see others walk through fire just because they did. 🙄To shut down some of these toxic women who make equality all about sexual harassment and never think intersectionally as they don’t have the bandwidth, even tho they got a book published

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        6. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jul 18
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          Replying to @MlleLicious @aidanhorner @Abebab

          What's the hair colour thing?

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        7. Stella‏ @MlleLicious Jul 18
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          Replying to @o_guest @aidanhorner @Abebab

          There are a few things from LinkedIn and such, it happens every few months, some dude or woman makes a comment that colored hair makes you less professional 🙄it is a short step from that to criticism of natural Afro hair etc. Anything that isn’t blonde Becky is wrong basically

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        8. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jul 18
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          Replying to @MlleLicious @aidanhorner @Abebab

          Ahhh. Coloured blonde is fine tho. 🙄

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        1. Berna D.‏ @zerdeve Jul 18
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          And people who (seemingly) knowingly keep and nurture an army of trolls as followers, who readily harass people they quote tweet, are the worst. Unfortunately there are quite a few of these in #bropenscience and they never call out these trolls.

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