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    1. Iris van Rooij‏ @IrisVanRooij Jul 15
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      Iris van Rooij Retweeted Berna D.

      These were inspired by @zerdeve: https://twitter.com/zerdeve/status/1150436337767444480?s=21 … Her rethorical question is valuable. Think about it. Why do you just accept the trade-off framing without reflection? What does that say?

      Iris van Rooij added,

      Berna D. @zerdeve
      Why did so many of you just endorse a post openly arguing that valuing diversity and inclusion in science comes at the expense of devaluing reproducibility, accessibility, etc.? Don’t you see what that kind of thinking does to science & scientific discourse? #rhetorical #dontatme
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    2. Roland van Mossel‏ @rolandVM Jul 15
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      Replying to @IrisVanRooij @zerdeve

      Oh, wow — evade all responsibility (and defuse all criticism) by framing it as zero-sum where every priority among separate goals is equally defendable.. 😞

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    3. Berna D.‏ @zerdeve Jul 15
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      Replying to @rolandVM @IrisVanRooij

      Indeed that was my point! Somehow I find that framing blatantly indefensible but although the author of the piece repeated the same things multiple times in convos, somehow he found my understanding uncharitable 🤷🏻‍♀️ Way to diffuse criticism indeed.

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    4. Roland van Mossel‏ @rolandVM Jul 15
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      Replying to @zerdeve @IrisVanRooij

      Yeah, reminds me a bit of a Dutch politician — he makes utterly bizarre statements and then complains the media are misinterpreting him. The author seems to either intentionally misrepresent what’s commonly implied by diversity or claim underrepresented groups lack certain skills

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    5. Iris van Rooij‏ @IrisVanRooij Jul 15
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      Replying to @rolandVM

      pic.twitter.com/YGNXkKYKzH

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    6. Iris van Rooij‏ @IrisVanRooij Jul 15
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      Replying to @IrisVanRooij @rolandVM @zerdeve

      See also my pinned tweet (because my account is locked, I cannot copy my own tweet here). Some (many?) people really think that diversity comes at the cost of quality .....

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    7. Iris van Rooij‏ @IrisVanRooij Jul 15
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      Replying to @IrisVanRooij @rolandVM @zerdeve

      Oh, correction: not my pinned tweet. I confused myself 😔 Ignore 🙂

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    8. Roland van Mossel‏ @rolandVM Jul 16
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      Replying to @IrisVanRooij @zerdeve

      Still seemed quite relevant (the pinned tweet regarding privilege), esp. with the extremely weird turn this discussion is taking.. 😕

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    9. Roland van Mossel‏ @rolandVM Jul 16
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      Replying to @rolandVM @IrisVanRooij @zerdeve

      “You shouldn’t punch people!” “I donate money to poor Africans so I just have different priorities. Refraining from punching would result in less money being sent.” “I’m not sure it works that way..” “It’s undeniable, no need for evidence which I always demand from everyone.” 😵

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    10. Clintin Davis-Stober‏ @ClintinS Jul 16
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      Replying to @rolandVM @IrisVanRooij @zerdeve

      agreed about trade-off framing. Lots of wisdom of crowd work showing that diversity of viewpoint (etc.,) leads to more robust and accurate crowd performance. Diversity isn't just one positive factor, but is integral to superior performance. @djnavarro made sim point earlier

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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jul 16
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      Thank you all! It's so pathetic to have to explain why diversity is important and why when a minority of people explain that diversity is important you can't say "oh, but a majority are cool". I'm still recovering. 🤦🏻‍♀️

      9:58 AM - 16 Jul 2019
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