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    1. Jim Grange‏ @JimGrange Mar 30
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      Is it just me, or is learning #python complicated by the fact there is no clear "version" to use (2? 3?) or preferred IDE? (And how to get python to work within said IDE.) Would be great if there was an RStudio type IDE for python. (I know about jupyter notebooks.)

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    2. Jonathan Reardon‏ @waterlego Mar 30
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      Replying to @JimGrange

      Use Python3 (i.e. the future, rather then the past). Whilst Jupyter Lab is good (for a web app), for a good solid IDE (comparable to rstudio), try PyCharm [https://www.jetbrains.com/pycharm/ ] (it has .ipynb support too).

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    3. Jonathan Reardon‏ @waterlego Mar 30
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      Replying to @waterlego @JimGrange

      There might be a slight learning curve (w/ some aspects) compared to rstudio, but nothing major. I find a mix of jup notebooks / lab (for data sci), pycharm, atom (also good), and vim, to cover most of my needs (depending on weight of use), if that helps at all.

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    4. Moritz Körber‏ @moritzkoerber Jul 9
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      I had some time to tinker with various python IDEs and co. in the past few weeks. I am a bit surprised about their capability and usability. Actually, I have yet to find something that does a decent job to help working with data. Spyder seems to be quite dated. PyCharm feels 1/4

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    5. Moritz Körber‏ @moritzkoerber Jul 9
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      overloaded and ponderous, at least when working with Jupyter Notebooks. Jupyter notebook is oddly resource-straining, slow and lacks some basic amenities such as a command line or a work space (I know about extensions, but they seem kinda buggy), at least from what I can see. 2/4

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    6. Moritz Körber‏ @moritzkoerber Jul 9
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      Replying to @moritzkoerber @waterlego @JimGrange

      Jupyter Lab seems to be the one-eyed here, at least a little bit better than JN. Still, I can't shake the feeling of amateurishness here. This is by no means a rant, I am just wondering bc python is so popular for data scientific tasks that I am surprised no truly 3/4

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    7. Moritz Körber‏ @moritzkoerber Jul 9
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      Replying to @moritzkoerber @waterlego @JimGrange

      sophisticated tool exists. I would appreciate if some experienced pythonista could give me some direction here. 4/4 /<rant>

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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jul 9
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      Replying to @moritzkoerber @waterlego @JimGrange

      Really not a fan of Jupyter Notebooks for any serious work, indeed. Prototyping: they are great. I like @AtomEditor and @code. Either way the OP is correct, Python is becoming less than ideal or one might say less Pythonic as the years go by. 😭

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        2. Joe Simons‏ @joejps84 Jul 9
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          Totally agree. I'm coming from RStudio, and find Atom (with Hydrogen) the most intuitive and useable way in.https://twitter.com/joejps84/status/1146987315073449985?s=19 …

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          Joe Simons @joejps84
          Appreciation post: I'm making heavy use of Python for the first time, and absolutely 100% hats off to @AtomEditor and @nteractio. Atom + Hydrogen provides such a great working environment - clean, crisp, and flexible with code execution
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        3. Jonathan Reardon‏ @waterlego Jul 9
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          Replying to @joejps84 @o_guest and

          I've been using VSCodium [https://github.com/VSCodium/vscodium …] for the past few months and I much prefer it to Pycharm or anything else. Agree w/ Olivia, wouldn't use Jup Notebooks for anything serious, far too clunky and lacking, I use it for testing bits and bob on the fly (throwaway).

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        4. Jonathan Reardon‏ @waterlego Jul 9
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          Replying to @waterlego @joejps84 and

          It sucks that env choice for Python is so poor, I'd love an rstudio-esque environment. I've tried a lot over the years and I'm not very satisfied.

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        5. Andy Woods‏ @AndyTWoods Jul 9
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          Replying to @waterlego @joejps84 and

          Check out pycharm (Community edition is free and opensource). Prob most popular IDE for developers.

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        6. Jonathan Reardon‏ @waterlego Jul 9
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          Replying to @AndyTWoods @joejps84 and

          Used it on and off for years, Andy -- not bad but it feels bloated and cumbersome (to me), don't you think? I honestly prefer VSCodium

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        7. Andy Woods‏ @AndyTWoods Jul 9
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          Replying to @waterlego @joejps84 and

          I love it :) got to know a lot of the shortcuts whcin speeds things up for me. I use it mostly for Web dev, mind (it really really helps with Web dev) . So perhaps we have dif needs :)

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        8. Jonathan Reardon‏ @waterlego Jul 9
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          Replying to @AndyTWoods @joejps84 and

          Great -- glad you like it! I'l stick with my current setup for now, give it a proper chance. I'm not averse to moving back to pycharm (you never know), we will see.

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