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    1. Kirstie Whitaker‏ @kirstie_j Jul 9
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      I don’t think it’s a problem of corner cases, the code of conduct gives power for many actions *and others* but the safety committee has to be willing to make strong decisions quickly and - in contrast to the legal system - NOT based on precedent.

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    2. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jul 9
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      Depends on the legal system! But yes, I absolutely agree.

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    3. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jul 9
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      The reason I mentioned legal system is just that in every crime or offense it doesn't just go "you did a theft, now prison" — it actually gets discussed and different sentences are given based off a CoC-type thing (the law).

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    4. Kirstie Whitaker‏ @kirstie_j Jul 9
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      Replying to @o_guest @WrightingApril and

      Ah! Gotcha. I have a bit of a strong response to comments about legal systems around codes of conduct because one of the things I say A LOT is that you don’t need one for things that are illegal!! >

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    5. Kirstie Whitaker‏ @kirstie_j Jul 9
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      < Sexual harassment and physical abuse are - in many countries (but not all) illegal. Conference organisers don’t need a code of conduct to report people to the police. They DO need a code of conduct to support the most vulnerable people by deplatforming the most toxic people.

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    6. Kirstie Whitaker‏ @kirstie_j Jul 9
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      But yes - I agree about the discussion part. And I’ve also always tried to frame the enforcement as restorative justice. Protecting the harmed person first, but educating and building pathways for remediation for the violator as best as possible.

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    7. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jul 9
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      Replying to @kirstie_j @WrightingApril and

      Again depends on the space, right? In a short tutorial I would not be happy to have to help and teach somebody not to, e.g., be a bully.

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    8. Kirstie Whitaker‏ @kirstie_j Jul 9
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      Replying to @o_guest @WrightingApril and

      Yes - I’m thinking more about the conversations about why the code of conduct is a) useful and b) different to law. In your example - a short course - centering the harmed person (in my mind) would mean not derailing the conversation to teach and explain to the bully.

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    9. Kirstie Whitaker‏ @kirstie_j Jul 9
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      Replying to @kirstie_j @o_guest and

      But where resource exists and for longer existing communities, conversations explaining why the code of conduct is being enforced in a particular way and what can be done to prevent future problems is very valuable.

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    10. Kirstie Whitaker‏ @kirstie_j Jul 9
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      Replying to @kirstie_j @o_guest and

      (Another pet peeve is when codes of conduct say (effectively) “you’ll be kicked out or nothing”. Misses the point in my opinion.)

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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jul 9
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      Replying to @kirstie_j @WrightingApril and

      Yup! Again it is a bad way of doing it! If-then rules are silly for anything humans do other than basic motor reactions like riding a bike.

      7:04 AM - 9 Jul 2019
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        1. Kirstie Whitaker‏ @kirstie_j Jul 9
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          Replying to @o_guest @WrightingApril and

          😂🤣 Very true!!

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