@kirstie_j also had a good one somewhere but I'm unable to locate it!
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Replying to @o_guest @wait_sasha and
The is the one I’ve used in the past and really love http://bit.ly/GamechangersCodeOfConduct … >
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Replying to @kirstie_j @o_guest and
< but now I recommend the
@thecarpentries one - the reporting and enforcement manual is huge and that’s because so many people have had their eyes on it and fed into their call for feedback (led by@DrKariLJordan) https://docs.carpentries.org/topic_folders/policies/index_coc.html …1 reply 1 retweet 9 likes -
Replying to @kirstie_j @o_guest and
The manual is really beautiful. But the process is fairly ossified in a way that makes it hard to respond to novel corner cases. And abusers are always generating novel corner cases. I've thought a lot about how to enable flexibility but also fairness and come up with nothing ...
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Replying to @WrightingApril @kirstie_j and
Yeah, the nature of humans sadly... I think this is why courts and case-by-case evaluation exists for the legal systems humans have come up with through the centuries.
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Replying to @o_guest @WrightingApril and
The only criticism of
@thecarpentries process is that the response has to go through a LOT of emails/people/discussion before anything can be acted upon. If I were using the code of conduct I would give much more power to local people to enforce as early as possible.1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes -
Replying to @kirstie_j @o_guest and
I don’t think it’s a problem of corner cases, the code of conduct gives power for many actions *and others* but the safety committee has to be willing to make strong decisions quickly and - in contrast to the legal system - NOT based on precedent.
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Replying to @kirstie_j @WrightingApril and
Depends on the legal system! But yes, I absolutely agree.
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Replying to @o_guest @kirstie_j and
The reason I mentioned legal system is just that in every crime or offense it doesn't just go "you did a theft, now prison" — it actually gets discussed and different sentences are given based off a CoC-type thing (the law).
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Replying to @o_guest @kirstie_j and
And that is the power of the system, it's not a set of if-then rules. I feel like a lot fo discussion around CoCs is because people think it will be a set of rules without discussion or nuance or chance. But nothing in life is like that not even the actual law itself.
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So I like to bring it up to make it clear that even the "strictest" rules around, laws, are flexible and interpretable and in flux.
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Replying to @o_guest @kirstie_j and
side note to this great thread - I highly recommend
@ottertechllc training by@_sagesharp_. We did this for all#DIBSI2019 hosts, lead instructors, TAs, and assistants this year; +inf.0 replies 0 retweets 1 likeThanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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