This is the real problem in psych IMHO: people wants recipes. That is what caused the problems originally, and what is perpetuated in the reform, just new recipes for disaster.https://twitter.com/dan_p_simpson/status/1145209207265751041 …
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Replying to @IrisVanRooij
I think it's also the experience most people have with stats: as a multiple-choice problem where the answer is a matter of picking the right off-the-shelf analysis, rather than a logical problem you can tackle from first principles
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Replying to @VandekerckhoveJ @IrisVanRooij
The decision trees you get in intro research methods class don't help either
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Replying to @VandekerckhoveJ
I know. I have "enjoyed" this type of education as student myself. It took a training in philosophy and theoretical computer science to snap out of the idea that recipes are even possible.
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Replying to @IrisVanRooij @VandekerckhoveJ
My point in the OP is that the fundamental desire has not changed, and thus that the root of the problem remains, and we (will) just see that same problems come back in new forms. We saw it already in the discussion about preregistration.
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Replying to @IrisVanRooij @VandekerckhoveJ
It's a problem with teaching, starts very early in life with Maths... see: https://www.maa.org/external_archive/devlin/LockhartsLament.pdf … Many teachers do not want to teach this way tho.
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I took a different point from Iris, which is that as psychologists, doing stats correctly is not incentivized by the prestige system. Teaching can't fix that, alas.
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Can teaching even fix stuff. I mean it's about attracting people to science who don't want to game the system. I worry sometimes but try to be positive.
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