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    Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jun 30
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    I keep seeing people talk about maths (stats and programming too!) on Twitter and criticising how it is taught in the West, myself included — but I don't know what to do other than beg people to read: A Mathematician’s Lament by Paul Lockhart https://www.maa.org/external_archive/devlin/LockhartsLament.pdf …pic.twitter.com/cIGV4cXGLN

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      2. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jun 30
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        "if I had to design a mechanism for [...] destroying a child’s natural curiosity[ ]— I simply wouldn’t have the imagination to come up with the kind of senseless, soulcrushing ideas that constitute contemporary mathematics education." https://www.maa.org/external_archive/devlin/LockhartsLament.pdf …

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      3. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jun 30
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        It even has dialogue. And yes, it's amazing. Please just read it: https://www.maa.org/external_archive/devlin/LockhartsLament.pdf … A Mathematician’s Lament by Paul Lockhartpic.twitter.com/eWSfubJoU3

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      4. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jun 30
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        Also, I just added a link to it from my blog, as obviously it's extremely relevant to the types of arguments needed to be made to understand we need to teach people to code too and has been an inspiration for me for a decade plus:http://neuroplausible.com/programming 

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      2. Felix‏ @FelixChaser Jun 30
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        I reread this piece every few years, and it's great. Over time, I find myself disagreeing with parts of it, just a little. But on the whole I think it makes excellent points. I struggled with maths/stats in school, and only latter got it to appreciate it.

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      3. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jun 30
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        Yeah, it's not and nothing is gospel. Agreed.

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      2. Rick Hass‏ @rw_hass Jun 30
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        I love this, but, I think the analogy with music and art is too idealistic. At some point I feel like one needs to learn something like a language in any domain to progress. Though one need not do this simply to appreciate the domain. Anyway, thanks for sharing!

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      3. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jun 30
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        Yeah, it's not obviously exactly what I think. But I love it too.

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      4. Rick Hass‏ @rw_hass Jul 1
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        Yeah I only say this because I once worked at a music school where we didn’t teach kids the basics. It was a disaster, but also I’m bad at teaching kids music 😜

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      1. IsThatABigNumber‏ @itabn_andrew Jun 30
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        100% agree. It's a joy to read.

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        You should get in touch with @alfiekohn on how to change the education system, he has some great books on what needs to change at the foundational level

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        @infinite_scream ( for the painters and musicians ect )

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        o.o

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      1. Janna Wennberg‏ @jannawwennberg Jun 30
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        Lockhart’s lament is great!!! And I agree with your other tweets that it 100% applies to statistics too.

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      1. Italvs Spinoza‏ @italvs Jun 30
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        Oh this is such a good read, thanks! My lab exps were so repetitive that I started to learn Python on my own, and it helped with my creativity

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        Love this 👌

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