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    1. Lennart Verhagen‏ @LennartVerhagen Jun 29
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      Lennart Verhagen Retweeted Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ

      Unpopular opinion: In exactly the same way the aggression called out by #bropenscience harms open science at large, so does this aggressively genderized label #bropenscience itself harm the cause for diversity and equality at large. Thread 👇https://twitter.com/o_guest/status/1144318491383738368 …

      Lennart Verhagen added,

      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ @o_guest
      I'm gonna do a small thread on: Why did I coin #bropenscience? The shortest answer to the question is: because it’s amusing and seems to upset exactly the right people, while also drawing attention to behaviours and ideas that harm #openscience and its adoption in deep ways.
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    2. Iris van Rooij‏ @IrisVanRooij Jun 29
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      Replying to @LennartVerhagen

      Please don’t. You asked what you could do as an ally. Imho, this is not it.

      2 replies 0 retweets 15 likes
    3. Jelle‏ @theblub Jun 29
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      Replying to @IrisVanRooij @LennartVerhagen

      Agreed

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    4. Edwin Dalmaijer‏ @esdalmaijer Jun 29
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      Replying to @theblub @IrisVanRooij @LennartVerhagen

      1/3 Conflicted... I think #bropenscience is a very funny term, and recognise the type of people it calls out. I also agree with @LennartVerhagen that aggression isn’t unique to one identity. For example, the person who coined the term can also be a bit of a bro sometimes.

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    5. Edwin Dalmaijer‏ @esdalmaijer Jun 29
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      Edwin Dalmaijer Retweeted Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ

      2/3 Context to that is the time @o_guest misrepresented my blog on open source in science, and suggested I had bad intentions. I (PhD student at the time) felt attacked by more senior researcher in my department. (Thread upwards here: https://twitter.com/o_guest/status/771124227349020672?s=21 … )

      Edwin Dalmaijer added,

      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ @o_guest
      Replying to @esdalmaijer @AnneEUrai
      Perhaps I can see beyond careful wording... But I really have said all I want to here and I stand by it.
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    6. Edwin Dalmaijer‏ @esdalmaijer Jun 29
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      Replying to @esdalmaijer @theblub and

      3/3 That said, it was also much easier for me to brush the whole thing off, compared to people who have had much more experience with verbal aggression turning to physical aggression. And that difference in perception of aggressive debate might be a core issue here?

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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jun 29
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      Replying to @esdalmaijer @theblub and

      Interesting you described me as bro-y, I've seen a lot of people say it can't be applied to women. If I am bro-y, that's not a good thing. 😊 So what exactly did I do that was bro-y?

      2:21 AM - 29 Jun 2019
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        2. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jun 29
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          Replying to @o_guest @esdalmaijer and

          Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ Retweeted Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ

          Also about context, do you mean the point I raised here?https://twitter.com/o_guest/status/1144888369769586688 …

          Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ added,

          Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ @o_guest
          Replying to @o_guest @LennartVerhagen and 5 others
          What aggression do you fear and from whom? Most minorities fear aggression not because of it in and of itself but because it manifests further and further and into worse and worse stuff. It's because of what verbal aggression means, it means a chance of physical aggression.
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        3. Edwin Dalmaijer‏ @esdalmaijer Jun 29
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          Replying to @o_guest @theblub and

          Yes! I’ve seen this in a different context on Twitter before, don’t want to link the person who made it, because I don’t think they like being tagged like that. Their point was that verbal aggression can be perceived very differently if it was paired with harassment in the past.

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        4. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jun 29
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          Replying to @esdalmaijer @theblub and

          Yes, it's a well-known point.

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        5. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jun 29
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          Replying to @o_guest @esdalmaijer and

          In fact it's pretty much standard conditioning.

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        2. Edwin Dalmaijer‏ @esdalmaijer Jun 29
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          Replying to @o_guest @theblub and

          I linked the specific interaction that I was referring to. Also, just to clarify: we’ve had nothing but pleasant interactions in person, so my “can be a bit of a bro” isn’t a blanket personality statement, but rather a situation-specific one. Hope that was clear! :)

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        3. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jun 29
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          Replying to @esdalmaijer @theblub and

          Everybody likes everybody in person. 🤣

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        4. Edwin Dalmaijer‏ @esdalmaijer Jun 29
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          Replying to @o_guest @theblub and

          If only that were true 😜

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