Thanks for asking for clarification. Appreciate that. In this context, it meant it can make it harder for me to point out the very same behaviour in non-bros.
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Will start doing this. And I hope this goes both ways. I started this thread for discussion and reflection.
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On a matter of self-reflection, I still haven't figured it all out. I don't identify as a bro, I do as a feminist (thanks mum!), I don't mind criticism (I wouldn't have started this thread if I did). Mork work to be done here.
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Also just to clarify: "I actually agree with you that pointing out, e.g., sexism in an area will deter women. BUT!" Women are being 100% rational actors by not wanting to go into an area they perceive for whatever reason as having sexism. But I think there's more here...
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The fact that women close to you, for example & if I understand you correctly, don't want to do
#openscience and prefer to do something else... is a problem you have to solve if you care, as an ally. -
Give them role models, make them feel safe, make them feel listened to, tell them to reach out and talk to me. If me just coining a term like
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Olivia’s pun is not just needed but precisely a way to discriminate among men. Those offended or deterred by it are certainly not allies.
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But can some of them become allies? Perhaps that's what I'm getting at. Calling out sexism is vital. And so supporting even little steps in the right direction.
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Hardly so when they prove themselves unable to listen and rather they keep trying to push their views instead.
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Yeah, "sit down and listen" sounds harsh but it's often the only way.
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