Putting the blocking issue aside for a sec, you suggested there are ethical issues with sharing an editor’s official email about one’s own paper (even w/o reviews) - I strongly disagree and think that will deter others and take away an important avenue for accountability.
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Replying to @siminevazire @tage_rai and
The blocking exacerbates this concern because, if it was for this reason, it’s a signal to other authors that further deters them from using this avenue for accountability.
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Replying to @siminevazire @tage_rai and
It sounds like the disagreement we have is about whether authors should be allowed to share their own decision letters w/o asking for permission. If the answer is no, then your block makes sense. I think it should clearly be yes. I’d be curious to hear reasons why it should be no
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Replying to @siminevazire @tage_rai and
I don't really see any faux outrage here. Just a debate about a topical issue. I personally agree with
@siminevazire and@hardsci . In absence of explicit notice not to share decision letters, I see no reason at all not to. They're not "personal" emails - they're institutional1 reply 0 retweets 14 likes -
Replying to @itjohnstone @siminevazire and
Why can't we ask permission if we are to share stuff publicly? If we really think something needs to be shared publicly, we can ask, and if ignored, we can still at least inform the person we're doing it, and then do it.
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Replying to @o_guest @itjohnstone and
Ask/inform seems a pretty attainable bar without much downside.
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One downside might be that the worst-behaved editors might be the least likely to give permission to be quoted.
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Replying to @stuartbuck1 @wgervais and
You read what I said, right? I never said "obtain permission".
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Sorry, I thought "ask permission" would then entail respecting a denial. So, if the journal editor says "no," it would be cool to publish or quote from the letter anyway?
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Replying to @stuartbuck1 @wgervais and
Look at what I said.pic.twitter.com/L8bLP5iwbf
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But to be clear, yes, if they say "no" that means a new conversation. I haven't covered that. And I don't know if a general statement if they say "no" is possible. Case by case.
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Replying to @o_guest @stuartbuck1 and
In this specific case, the editor very clearly stated he would have said "yes".
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Replying to @o_guest @stuartbuck1 and
To be clear, my experiences with those who want to screw you over DO NOT want to have a conversation. They want to ignore you. Hence why I focused on an editor ignoring you.
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