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    1. Esther Mondragón‏ @twitemp1 Jun 10
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      Are you missing commas? Don’t look further, feel free to take all redundant ones from my tweets. You will find them appearing from nowhere in conjunction with a space. 😒pic.twitter.com/maktwf1PKf

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    2. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jun 11
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      Are you talking about what I think? This is a quirk of English that took me till I was in my mid-20s to learn. Commas have a very different meaning in sentences (e.g., the comma splice is a grammatical error) than in Greek or French or Spanish.

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    3. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jun 11
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      I was mocked by people for a few years, mainly my Ph.D. supervisor, until my dad explained it to me. He said: "In Greek the comma is where you pause if you were reading aloud — in English it's specific to very very certain cases only."

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    4. Dr. Katherine O'Keefe‏ @okeefekat Jun 11
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      This also depends on the century. Shakespeare, commas are breathing markers. They developed a more rhetorical function in the 18th century if I remember correctly.

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    5. Esther Mondragón‏ @twitemp1 Jun 11
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      That's interesting!

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    6. Dr. Katherine O'Keefe‏ @okeefekat Jun 11
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      It’s one of the reasons I end up with a lot of “extraneous” commas too as a native speaker. (But comma splices are often like nails on a chalkboard to me and I just can’t with Stephen King because of his comma splices.)

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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jun 11
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      Yes, sorry of course. Newton's great for sentences that in Modern English would be a paragraph to a small book of sentences. It's because of influence from Romance and other langues and as time goes on English gets more and more decoupled.

      4:53 AM - 11 Jun 2019
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        2. Eric Lawton‏ @Eric0Lawton Jun 11
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          I love how grammarians decided that to deliberately split an infinitive was a crime in English because it's not possible in Latin.

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        3. Dr. Katherine O'Keefe‏ @okeefekat Jun 11
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          Not to mention ending a sentence with a preposition. It’s perfectly fine in English dammit!

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        4. Dr. Katherine O'Keefe‏ @okeefekat Jun 11
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          (Although, actual grammarians wouldn’t tell you its wrong to do so, just pretentious and incorrect rule one-uppers.)

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        5. Esther Mondragón‏ @twitemp1 Jun 11
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          Aha! In Spanish you cannot end a sentence with a preposition, it is simply nonsensical. And there I was chatting about work with some Spanish friends on the tube in Madrid, when right at the time we stopped at a station, I finished my sentence with, of course, a preposition.

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        6. Esther Mondragón‏ @twitemp1 Jun 11
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          To the sudden silence, a burst of laugh from friends and surrounding witnesses, perhaps encouraged by my very confused expression.

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        7. Eric Lawton‏ @Eric0Lawton Jun 11
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          In colloquial French, it's common for emphasis, especially with "avec". My French isn't good enough to know when. (Does my first sentence count as ending with two prepositions? 😀)

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        8. Esther Mondragón‏ @twitemp1 Jun 11
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          LOL Well, let's have a new rule 2 x prep=hyperbole + a je ne se quoi

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