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    1. Matteo Italia‏ @cvtsi2sd Jun 8
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      Replying to @ClaymorePT @justkelly_ok

      Indeed I just looked it up as I remember it to be a bit more nuanced. In Italy it works like this: - <13: consent is never valid (+aggravation if <10) - =13: consent not valid, but not punishable if the consensual partner is <18 and has at most 3 years of age difference (1/n)

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    2. Matteo Italia‏ @cvtsi2sd Jun 8
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      Replying to @cvtsi2sd @ClaymorePT @justkelly_ok

      - 14/15 years: consent is valid UNLESS the partner is a parent (even adoptive), a guardian, lives with the minor, or in general is in an influential position of any kind against him/her, so the minor has been entrusted to him/her e.g. for education/care/custody/... purposes (2/n)

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    3. Matteo Italia‏ @cvtsi2sd Jun 8
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      Replying to @cvtsi2sd @ClaymorePT @justkelly_ok

      - 16/17 years: the consent is valid, unless obtained through abuse of authority from the aforementioned authority figures; - 18 years is the regular age of consent/majority, so from then on the regular "adult" rules apply. (3/n)

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    4. Matteo Italia‏ @cvtsi2sd Jun 8
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      Replying to @cvtsi2sd @ClaymorePT @justkelly_ok

      The general idea here is to strike a balance between "normal" situations (minors had sex with each other since always, and that's something that makes no sense to criminalize) and abuses from authority figures, that can leverage their position to extort consent. (4/n)

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    5. Matteo Italia‏ @cvtsi2sd Jun 8
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      Replying to @cvtsi2sd @ClaymorePT @justkelly_ok

      Indeed the zone between 14 and 18 years is deliberately vague enough about who exactly those authority figures are - there are some examples, but the point is that it is in general someone who "esercita un ascendente" (has strong influence) over the minor. (5/n)

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    6. Matteo Italia‏ @cvtsi2sd Jun 8
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      Replying to @cvtsi2sd @ClaymorePT @justkelly_ok

      So: creeper who succeeds into brainwashing a minor (even >14 years old) to extort its consent? That's _not_ legal, it's not going to fly in court, and it's widely known that 14-to-18 consent is a slippery area even in more "normal" situations. (6/n)

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    7. Matteo Italia‏ @cvtsi2sd Jun 8
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      Replying to @cvtsi2sd @ClaymorePT @justkelly_ok

      That's just to say: it's not like here after 14 it's a "free for all" for pedophiles, the law is way more nuanced and, while the consent from a minor in the 14-18 age can be valid, is still conditional to avoid forms of abuse. (7/7)

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    8. Kelly Ellis‏Verified account @justkelly_ok Jun 8
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      Replying to @cvtsi2sd @ClaymorePT

      Why the fuck would you think I care enough to have SEVEN tweets about this in my notifications??? Inappropriate my dude. Point is the guy is a fucking child rapist. It's not about the details of foreign consent law WTF.

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    9. Mark Amery‏ @XplodingCabbage Jun 9
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      Replying to @justkelly_ok @cvtsi2sd @ClaymorePT

      Eh? Because you wrote something about a topic, other people are now... no longer allowed to write about it in the same public forum? Nah. @cvtsi2sd's contribution here was interesting and useful, and he gets a follow from me. If you don't want to read it, then don't.

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    10. Laura‏ @luluatl Jun 9
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      Replying to @XplodingCabbage @justkelly_ok and

      Useful? Why in all hell would that be useful info?

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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jun 9
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      Replying to @luluatl @XplodingCabbage and

      Yup. It's the context that makes it inappropriate. It's of course useful in certain situations... This one is NOT it.

      1:16 PM - 9 Jun 2019
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