I wouldn't read too much into that myself, but maybe I'm too optimistic! Similarly, I don't think most people fundamentally lack kindness - some people might not show kindness because e.g. they're scared or feel out of their depth.
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Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ Retweeted Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ
I don't think it's a fundamental lack in the sense they can never be kind. I think they have learned not to be in certain contexts. This isn't the example I have like this, I can list off at least another 10 no problem. At least one per year in academia.https://twitter.com/o_guest/status/1137246214293000193 …
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Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ @o_guestReplying to @o_guest @Satirony @mnitabachI won best poster at the first conference I ever attended and was told by my advisor at the time that it wasn't potentially that good because they had two best poster prizes for the two days so mine being on the second day could have been worse than all on the first day.1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes -
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In fact the reason I find it heartbreaking/disgusting is that they can be kind, as evidenced by seeing them do just that, but they chose not to be to certain people.
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Yeah - that kind of thing both saddens and angers me, and you're right that it happens a lot. I guess I'm just more optimistic that things can change, but then I say that from a position of huge privilege on pretty much every dimension...
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(except perhaps my weird surname and tendency to tan quickly...)
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I think things can change, but I don't think it's easy. It seems to be to be a typical case of "you can say you offer training/help to those who need it but if none of them think they need it, it's impossible to train/help anybody".
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This is why you need a systems perspective - they won't opt in to it, but you can mandate it, through more directive line management than is typical in academia, by including it as a requirement for promotion etc.
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Academia is pretty unique in allowing a PhD to be the *only* qualification you need to get all the way to the top. Most other professions require some form of ongoing training / professional development. Academics need that too.
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That's a step, but even that can be played and bypassed. Anybody can pass a "test for being inclusive" even somebody who thinks the whole idea is flawed. Gaming the system when the system is flimsy is easy.
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No system will ever be perfect, but we can start to move in the right direction - be a *bit* better and start to build a culture that is healthier. But it will take a long time, and that will be frustrating.
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I completely agree. But I'm not sure I have the ability (in many senses) to put in even more time while others take credit.
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