Well, you don't need a "study" to show this ... "Study finds scientific reproducibility does not equate to scientific truth" https://buff.ly/2LOvudK pic.twitter.com/M8mvt7orRk
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Well, you don't need a "study" to show this ... "Study finds scientific reproducibility does not equate to scientific truth" https://buff.ly/2LOvudK pic.twitter.com/M8mvt7orRk
We don’t *just* show that but yes, of course a study needs to show this as well. I just think our main contribution is elsewhere.
I just meant that false finding could easily be replicated (through systematic error or design flaw) and true finding could be non-replicable (e.g. a one-time event or unique phenomenon). So those two points are knowable a priori. But the study is cool for other reasons!
Well it may be apparent a priori knowledge to you and I but definitely not to all scientists. You should have seen some of the reviews we got and how much we had to fight to keep these conclusions in the paper! There’s great resistance.
See also Berna's wonderful talkhttps://youtu.be/-g9Q8EGH-RM
It was a very good talk and it's a very good paper. I don't know why she gets so many flippant responses to this work
I tried to clarify that my comment was a response to the claim as presented in the title of the press release (i.e., that reproducibility does not equate to truth does not require empirical demonstration). It wasn’t meant to be a comment on the actual study which is fascinating
I think an important issue here is that this notion/criticism: "but this is obviously true" is a very common one used to reject papers ESPECIALLY MODELLING WORK from prestigious journals. So you will always receive a reaction if you say this to modellers even if in good faith.
I appreciate the background/context better now, thanks. All I can say is that I was not referring in any way to the paper or the model. I was referring to the title of the press release and the claim as stated there. I see how that could have been unclear
Well, I'm sure there's more here specific to how people have treated Berna specifically. Let's just say many in the open science movement in psychology have been kind of silly (to say the least) in reaction to her work.
I wasn’t aware of that, sorry ... thanks for letting me know. I didn’t even know it was her work when I made the statement (which was not intended as ridicule) about the claim in the press release title
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