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    1. Brian D. Earp‏ @briandavidearp May 17
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      Well, you don't need a "study" to show this ... "Study finds scientific reproducibility does not equate to scientific truth" https://buff.ly/2LOvudK pic.twitter.com/M8mvt7orRk

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    2. Berna D.‏ @zerdeve May 17
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      We don’t *just* show that but yes, of course a study needs to show this as well. I just think our main contribution is elsewhere.

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    3. Brian D. Earp‏ @briandavidearp May 17
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      Replying to @zerdeve

      I just meant that false finding could easily be replicated (through systematic error or design flaw) and true finding could be non-replicable (e.g. a one-time event or unique phenomenon). So those two points are knowable a priori. But the study is cool for other reasons!

      2 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
    4. Berna D.‏ @zerdeve May 17
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      Well it may be apparent a priori knowledge to you and I but definitely not to all scientists. You should have seen some of the reviews we got and how much we had to fight to keep these conclusions in the paper! There’s great resistance.

      3 replies 1 retweet 16 likes
    5. Joshua Skewes‏ @JCSkewesDK May 17
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      Replying to @zerdeve @briandavidearp

      See also Berna's wonderful talkhttps://youtu.be/-g9Q8EGH-RM 

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    6. Danielle Navarro‏ @djnavarro May 17
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      Replying to @JCSkewesDK @zerdeve @briandavidearp

      It was a very good talk and it's a very good paper. I don't know why she gets so many flippant responses to this work

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    7. Brian D. Earp‏ @briandavidearp May 17
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      I tried to clarify that my comment was a response to the claim as presented in the title of the press release (i.e., that reproducibility does not equate to truth does not require empirical demonstration). It wasn’t meant to be a comment on the actual study which is fascinating

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    8. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest May 18
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      Replying to @briandavidearp @djnavarro and

      I think an important issue here is that this notion/criticism: "but this is obviously true" is a very common one used to reject papers ESPECIALLY MODELLING WORK from prestigious journals. So you will always receive a reaction if you say this to modellers even if in good faith.

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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest May 18
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      Replying to @o_guest @briandavidearp and

      The numbers of times people (reviewers, etc.) have said of models' results "we all know this" and "this is obviously true" when nothing of the sort is neither a mainstream view nor published is very high — hilarious and painful.

      12:46 AM - 18 May 2019
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      • Tim Marsh Martin Modrák Dr. Christina Bergmann Cristina Brad Wyble Melanie Stefan Berna D. eigenvalue Donald E Frederick
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        2. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest May 18
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          Replying to @o_guest @briandavidearp and

          It reminds me of how right wing people and especially fascists talk about modern art. Ridiculously painful rhetoric.

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        3. Esther Mondragón‏ @twitemp1 May 18
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          Replying to @o_guest @briandavidearp and

          Yes, characterising modelled results as trivialities, obviousness, truisms... seems to be the pastime of many researchers. They seem to believe that intuition is a more reliable manner to elaborate scientific conclusions and that psychol. processes are simple linear operations.

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        4. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest May 18
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          Replying to @twitemp1 @briandavidearp and

          The same reply to all the above: If you could have done it, why didn't you? 🤣

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        2. l̴o̴o̴p̴u̴l̴e̴a̴s̴a̴‏ @loopuleasa May 22
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          Replying to @o_guest @briandavidearp and

          Hindsight bias is normal

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        3. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest May 22
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          Replying to @loopuleasa @briandavidearp and

          Sure but it's selectively applied to our research and not theirs.

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        4. l̴o̴o̴p̴u̴l̴e̴a̴s̴a̴‏ @loopuleasa May 22
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          Replying to @o_guest @briandavidearp and

          It's always someone else, but not us

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