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    1. Gordon Pennycook‏ @GordPennycook May 3
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      A poll for psychologists (and be honest): Have you "salami-sliced" a paper with the primary goal of increasing your number of publications? That is, you had some set of studies that would make a good and coherent paper but instead published them separately to increase pub count.

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    2. Aidan Horner‏ @aidanhorner May 3
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      Do you feel any pressure to do this? I've genuinely never been tempted, so interested in motivation to do this.

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    3. Gordon Pennycook‏ @GordPennycook May 3
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      I don't... and, in fact, I usually do precisely the opposite: Try to put too much into a single paper. Seems to me that you're lucky if you can get someone's eyes on your paper. Why take half of it and put it elsewhere?

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    4. Aidan Horner‏ @aidanhorner May 3
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      Replying to @GordPennycook

      Indeed. So what's the motivation for the question then? Do you think there are pressures or incentives to do this?

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    5. Gordon Pennycook‏ @GordPennycook May 3
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      Ah! Scroll up from thishttps://twitter.com/GordPennycook/status/1124341798455971841?s=19 …

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      Gordon Pennycook @GordPennycook
      Replying to @wgervais
      Perhaps I'm naive, but does it tho? It's Time For A Poll pic.twitter.com/AeBG0DLigf
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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest May 3
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      Replying to @GordPennycook @aidanhorner

      I have no idea what you think, haven't clicked through yet, sorry. But I have seen people who salami slice (obv I could link to their Scholar profiles to show you, but it would be terribly rude).

      9:17 AM - 3 May 2019
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        1. Gordon Pennycook‏ @GordPennycook May 3
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          Replying to @o_guest @aidanhorner

          I have as well, but I'm still unclear about how common it is. (And I'm guessing the forward-thinking psych Twitter peeps will underestimate the prevalence, but still interesting to see what people say)

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        2. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest May 3
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          Replying to @o_guest @GordPennycook @aidanhorner

          It seems they do it not because of a general pressure on salami slicing per se, but (I feel bad for saying this) because they don't know better.

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        3. Aidan Horner‏ @aidanhorner May 3
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          TBH, if there wasn't any correlation of this with career development, I don't think it necessarily matters (or only matters at the extremes). The data are the same, and the conclusions from a series of papers, or one big paper, should be the same.

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        4. Aidan Horner‏ @aidanhorner May 3
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          It's the packaging (i.e., how it is sold) that might lead to problems, more than the splitting of the data per se.

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        5. Hannimal  🇪🇺 🇬🇧 🏳️‍🌈‏ @hisotalus May 3
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          I am planning to salami my study but basically it’s 3 different experiments that target different cognitive processes, some imaging and sleep recordings are only relevant to some. I don’t see a problem. But then equally one of my (expected) null findings will only make it to

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        6. Hannimal  🇪🇺 🇬🇧 🏳️‍🌈‏ @hisotalus May 3
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          the supplementary materials of on one paper. From that study another task/experiment was taken to “complement” and publish together with same task from a different study. I think it’s only sensible to publish what works together together.

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        7. Hannimal  🇪🇺 🇬🇧 🏳️‍🌈‏ @hisotalus May 3
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          And separate what doesn’t.

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        8. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest May 3
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          Replying to @hisotalus @aidanhorner @GordPennycook

          Not sure this is salami slicing.

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        9. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest May 3
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          IMHO salami slicing, like a crime, has to have a mens rea. So organising experiments into papers is not sufficient to determine if salami slicing has been done.

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