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    1. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Mar 16
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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ Retweeted Bart tweets progress.

      There isn't something simple going on with modelling... as I explained many times (e.g., on this account: https://twitter.com/SfPRocur/status/1102957227906949121 …), the issues are very deep and nuanced when they exist AND modelleres already actually do a lot to address them.

      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ added,

      Bart tweets progress. @SfPRocur
      Today I'd like to talk about issues with respect to #openscience and specifically sharing code. But first an intro to what open science is...
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    2. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Mar 16
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      Replying to @o_guest @bradpwyble and

      Anyway the police/city metaphor and the idea that a paper type can help modelling seems too off to me to be of use for modelling. As well as a bit off to be told what our work is like or what our environment is like from those who don't do modelling.

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    3. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Mar 16
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      Replying to @o_guest @bradpwyble and

      I thought the point was to respect experts and modellers are experts not just on modelling itself but also how they and their work is treated by wider psych/cogsci/neurosci.

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    4. Joshua Skewes‏ @JCSkewesDK Mar 16
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      Replying to @o_guest @bradpwyble and

      Thanks for clarifying. I think we completely agree. Modeling expertise is a form of theorising and experts in modeling need to be part of any reform we might be undergoing. Mine is an argument for diversity in any reform process and I agree the city metaphor is inappropriate.

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    5. Chris Chambers‏Verified account @chrisdc77 Mar 16
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      Replying to @JCSkewesDK @o_guest and

      One of my special skills is coming up with ideas that everyone hates. It’s harder than you might think.

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    6. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Mar 16
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      Replying to @VandekerckhoveJ @chrisdc77 and

      You mean authoritarianism is something that appeals to some over others? But it's an empirical issue as well: has authoritarian-flavoured science worked well in the past? I believe it hasn't because science isn't something that can be codified nor something monolithic.

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    7. Ivan Flis‏ @ivanflis Mar 16
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      Replying to @o_guest @VandekerckhoveJ and

      This is a huge jump. Saying that a science has social conventions and that conventions need to be discussed/consciously implemented/changed is very far from saying science should be authoritarian.

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    8. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Mar 16
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      Replying to @ivanflis @VandekerckhoveJ and

      I didn't make the jump you think. I am claiming that saying "science needs something akin to a police force" is authoritarian. Inherently so IMHO.

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    9. Ivan Flis‏ @ivanflis Mar 16
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      Replying to @o_guest @VandekerckhoveJ and

      Oh, we're still at the city metaphor. I thought that was settled. I just don't want us to go down the rabbit hole "if there are any social conventions that direct research = authoritarian", because that's a strawman.

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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Mar 16
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      Replying to @ivanflis @VandekerckhoveJ and

      It's also a strawman of me to say I said that. 😉 I completely want a dialogue on social conventions and I think they can be a force for good as well as good science.

      3:36 AM - 16 Mar 2019
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        2. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Mar 16
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          Replying to @o_guest @ivanflis and

          I am literally the person (among many) who gets called a feminazi/SJW/crybaby or whatever for calling out some of the bad/new social conventions and for asking for a dialogue on improving our social conventions.

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        3. Ivan Flis‏ @ivanflis Mar 16
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          Replying to @o_guest @VandekerckhoveJ and

          Sure, I had a feeling we were misunderstanding each other, not yet at a point of actual disagreement. The limits of this damned platform, eh? :)

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