Thanks for clarifying. I think we completely agree. Modeling expertise is a form of theorising and experts in modeling need to be part of any reform we might be undergoing. Mine is an argument for diversity in any reform process and I agree the city metaphor is inappropriate.
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Replying to @JCSkewesDK @o_guest and
One of my special skills is coming up with ideas that everyone hates. It’s harder than you might think.
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.....but you didn't seem super committed to the metaphor.
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If you learn anything in philosophy it's that metaphors can be distracting.
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I can't hate it that much because if you, Chris, hadn't used it I would not have realised how we see the world differently in this case.
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It's possible that b/c so much time working to change existing systems from the inside, with all their imperfections & rules, policies & so forth, that my views are a bit restricted - and so I usually tend to see things through a "systems lens", if that makes sense.
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But this discusison has been helpful for me in seeing what might lie beyond that.
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Iris van Rooij Retweeted Brad Wyble
Thanks Chris. I did notice others really loved your metaphor & have boosted it despite feedback & pushback from modelers here. So while I appreciate the revision, still a bit worried; as
@bradpwyble mentioned in a parallel thread track record isn't great:https://twitter.com/bradpwyble/status/1106578552932175872 …Iris van Rooij added,
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This is why I'd like to see such a strong representation from the theoreticians in reform discussions. Not necessarily because theoretical work needs any reforms at all (that's for theoreticians to decide), but to ensure that the reforms that are necessarily happening in >
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> some areas don't conflict/creep into areas where they might actually be detrimental to science, & also because I think the theoreticians/historians/philosopher perspective is very valuable in its own right as a voice here.
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Thank you for saying this explicitly.
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Replying to @o_guest @chrisdc77 and
Yes, I think this is a better way of framing the role for theoreticians et al.
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