Something that really strikes me about #OpenScienceIMC - critiques of the ‘open science movement’ often paint the reformers as hackers/pirates/thugs/etc. Yet here there has been nothing but incredible optimism & enthusiasm for the science. It’s not about burning things down.
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Thanks for noting this
@ArinaBones2. To be honest, I was quite disheartened by reading the OP, especially after this morning's exchange:https://twitter.com/JCSkewesDK/status/1105743245336825856 … -
I mean stating that "oh, these people here are kind and constructive" as evidence that there is no problem with unkindness and destructiveness in the OS movement, when some of those same people have experienced hostility from prominent OS advocates, is kind of frustrating.
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Huh? Sorry - I must have these people muted as I haven't seen any negativity in any of the threads related to this event. Or is it somewhere else? I never said that the good event meant that there were no bad apples.
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I actually explicitly said that there *are* bad apples and actors, but that those don't define the overall community or it's spirit. And I stand by that - firmly.https://twitter.com/micahgallen/status/1105828720957362176 …
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I don't get the comparison to the Trier event either. ALl the tweets I saw there looked really positive and optimistic. But I block and mute a ton of people so it's possible i've just filtered the offenders out?
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I have heard from others that they haven't seen what I have seen and I have noticed those Tweets have little to no replies, I guess Twitter's algorithm is improving.

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I’m sorry my point was lost in interpretation. I may regret trying again, but please Micah I believe you can understand: The use of phrase “bad apples” functions to minimize the real problems rather than own our responsibility as community (I’m part of it too) to address them.
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Your message seems to want to signal to people outside OS that things are pretty great in OS?Given that ppl in OS who presented at workshop been targetted from within OS, that message seems unhelpful. Cf throwing under the bus. Not your intent! Just explaining impact of message.
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