"Teaching students to code is really hard and nobody in my dept knows how to teach them."
All teaching is hard. It takes time and is going to require sacrifices. It’s a massively undervalued and underpaid profession (no coincidence it’s undervalued and it’s feminised often).
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Bart tweets progress. Retweeted Rebecca Lai
"We can’t expect clinical people to learn how to code."
We can and it’s really useful for them, they say so often themselves to me and on Twitter, e.g., here:https://twitter.com/_R_Lai_/status/1066827149208944641 …Bart tweets progress. added,
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"Who are you to say we should or could teach them to code?"
You don't have to listen to me. But I’ve taught psychology A-level students and undergraduates in class, as well as PhD students mostly by begging them to teach themselves.
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"We can’t teach them to code because scoping [or any other programming concept] is really hard and time-consuming to learn."
We can/do teach them w/out scoping. Pedagogical principle: teach, e.g., about 3 states of matter. Don’t go “oh, there’s also Bose-Einstein condensate”.1 reply 2 retweets 3 likesShow this thread -
"You can’t teach them how to code during a stats class because some students will have a “handicap” if they have not coded before."
It’s normal for the skills of students to vary. A teacher should cope. It’s also why we should shield students from, e.g., the male geek trope.1 reply 2 retweets 6 likesShow this thread -
And that's a small recap of the stuff I raised in this blog post, in case you want to read it off Twitter in a less choppy way:http://neuroplausible.com/programming
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To finish this off, I just want to say, check out the people who do indeed teach coding in psych/neuro. Like
@djnavarro! See here for some of her materials:https://psyr.org/1 reply 5 retweets 11 likesShow this thread -
Bart tweets progress. Retweeted Dale Barr
Especially see this bit of a huge thread on teaching coding in psych/neuro from a while back:https://twitter.com/dalejbarr/status/1066431058764288000 …
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Bart tweets progress. Retweeted Martin Corley
And this bit again of the same huge thread on teaching coding in psych/neuro:https://twitter.com/martincorley/status/1066829568554819584 …
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Martin Corley @martincorleyReplying to @richarddmorey @seriousstats and 7 othersThat hasn't been our experience at Edinburgh, where all methods teaching is R-based. In fact I was talking to a couple of students on Fri who were taking a python-based course in neural networks - they were quite confident they'd cope after 2 (soon 3) pretty intensive years of R1 reply 2 retweets 5 likesShow this thread -
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