Many of us have been commenting on this (@IrisVanRooij, @djnavarro, @o_guest, myself, and others) but typically receive backlash. Now that an insider to psych OS movement is making the same point, maybe it’ll be received with more appreciation. Here’s to hoping
https://twitter.com/PsyBrief/status/1102890288467623936 …
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Replying to @zerdeve @IrisVanRooij and
I looked at some of that original discussion and it was pretty disappointing. As you say, hopefully it is taken on board. PS I class myself as an OS advocate & I guess that makes me a member of the "psych OS movement", I'm still hesitant re using group language to describe it
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Replying to @PsyBrief @IrisVanRooij and
Oh just to clarify, I didn’t mean you (as an insider) but meant to refer to the original blog post at the beginning of your thread). Sorry about the confusion!
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I consider myself an insider. I just think it's a different inside.
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That’s a great point Olivia! There’s no reason I should feel like an outsider given the work I do other than the fact that I do. It sure feels like a different inside I’m in
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TBH I have to admit, and i hope this doesn't upset anybody tagged, that I can't help it but see my (sub)discipline with all the modelling and cognitive stuff I /we do as genuinely qualitatively HACKTUALLY different to the more methods/empirical people.
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I know we work in the same departments, I know we essentially (appear to) study the same stuff, but the methods, ideas, ways, cultural touchstones, are just disjoint. Are we really the same discipline when we don't actually have a common language?
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I view our discipline as defined by subject matter, the key phenomena & systems we wish to understand. In that sense psych is my home discipline. I‘m pushed out when ppl go ‘you do formal modeling (not experiments), that’s not psychology’. That can’t be right, for the discipline.
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Replying to @IrisVanRooij @zerdeve and
Certainly not my argument. I do view them pushing you out as their own cultural issue though which of course you do not share with them.
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Oh, but then perhaps I misread you. I thought you suggested that modeling vs methods was a discipline split-line, or did I misunderstand? Perhaps you meant, some subdomains of psych have more modelers and other subdomains less so?
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If I had to pick one it's the second, essentially.
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