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    1. Iris van Rooij‏ @IrisVanRooij Feb 26
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      Honest question: If you advocate open science, but do not care about putting in the work to do open science in a way that helps and not harms people, what are you advocating open science for? (disclaimer: if you read this and think it is addressed to you, it probably isn't)

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    2. Esther Mondragón‏ @twitemp1 Feb 26
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      Replying to @IrisVanRooij

      It certainly does not seem to aim at finding a modus vivendi

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    3. Iris van Rooij‏ @IrisVanRooij Feb 26
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      Replying to @twitemp1

      Perhaps I misunderstand the term, but it does not seem to me that a 'compromise' is needed; I am asking instead, a push for open science that does not care to put in effort to safeguard the humanity and safety of its own practices ... what is it for?

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    4. Esther Mondragón‏ @twitemp1 Feb 26
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      Replying to @IrisVanRooij

      Yes, I understood what you meant. To me, the term does not imply compromise but simply a provision of means to let people coexist in peace (probably the meaning in English/Dutch doesn't correspond exactly to that in Latin based languages).

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    5. Esther Mondragón‏ @twitemp1 Feb 26
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      Replying to @twitemp1 @IrisVanRooij

      What I meant is that the OS movement does not seem to care about minimum(s/a) of coexistence.

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    6. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Feb 26
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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ Retweeted Titus Brown

      SOME do. Some make really good stuff. But the ones that you two mean don't. But I can guide you to e.g., https://twitter.com/ctitusbrown/status/1099015576624623616 … and @daniellecrobins blogs and @kirstie_j too!

      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ added,

      Titus Brown @ctitusbrown
      Blog post: "Threat models for open online scientific engagement?" http://ivory.idyll.org/blog/2019-threat-models-for-open-engagement.html … - what are the reasons why scientists might avoid online engagement?
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    7. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Feb 26
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      Replying to @o_guest @twitemp1 and

      The problem we have to deal with is how these people are not discussed as much within the areas of open science we inhabit... and that's a genuinely valuable question.

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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Feb 26
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      Replying to @o_guest @twitemp1 and

      I think the reasons are really complex and they do boils down to people not thinking deeply about what open even means. A very sad truth.

      6:51 AM - 26 Feb 2019
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        2. Kirstie Whitaker‏ @kirstie_j Feb 26
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          Replying to @o_guest @twitemp1 and

          +100 on the point that different areas of Open* define it very differently. There's one person who said a few months ago "If you want to include diversity you have to call it something else, Open Science works just fine as it is" and it bothers me every day.

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        3. Kirstie Whitaker‏ @kirstie_j Feb 26
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          Replying to @kirstie_j @o_guest and

          Actually, the awareness of the importance of inclusion in different areas of Open Source, Open Science, Open Research, Open Access etc etc is really variable across communities. Some of the oldest are the ones that care the most. They're what give me hope that times will change.pic.twitter.com/dGzLjLQIMK

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        4. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Feb 26
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          Replying to @kirstie_j @twitemp1 and

          I think it's tricky to claim the older ones are better when it's the case that one of the oldest is pretty bad... BUT yes, a really good indicator of if an open movement will be open is to see who it is open to? Otherwise how will it survive as "open"?https://www.wired.com/2017/06/diversity-open-source-even-worse-tech-overall/ …

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