Honest question: If you advocate open science, but do not care about putting in the work to do open science in a way that helps and not harms people, what are you advocating open science for? (disclaimer: if you read this and think it is addressed to you, it probably isn't)
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I think the reasons are really complex and they do boils down to people not thinking deeply about what open even means. A very sad truth.
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+100 on the point that different areas of Open* define it very differently. There's one person who said a few months ago "If you want to include diversity you have to call it something else, Open Science works just fine as it is" and it bothers me every day.
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Actually, the awareness of the importance of inclusion in different areas of Open Source, Open Science, Open Research, Open Access etc etc is really variable across communities. Some of the oldest are the ones that care the most. They're what give me hope that times will change.pic.twitter.com/dGzLjLQIMK
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I think it's tricky to claim the older ones are better when it's the case that one of the oldest is pretty bad... BUT yes, a really good indicator of if an open movement will be open is to see who it is open to? Otherwise how will it survive as "open"?https://www.wired.com/2017/06/diversity-open-source-even-worse-tech-overall/ …
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I may inhabit special corners of the
#openscience world;@thecarpentries cares a great deal about community and inclusion. I know that the@emckiernan13 /@hjoseph /@open_con sphere does as well. so do at least some in bioinformatics. -
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#openscience think time on understanding how to promote healthy community growth. that seems like the best path to a human-centric open science that is both worthwhile and sustainable. arguing this to e.g. funding agencies is challenging tho :( -
I've ended up thinking of this as a problem of capitalism. Funding agencies aren't set up for a) long term and b) distributed wins. There always seems to be an argument for a small group to take the lead to deliver XYZ in the short term.
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Which is not to say that that is very helpful.....it's actually much harder than not caring about inclusion and sustainability...but the roots of the problem make more sense to me that way.
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I can't agree more here.
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