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    1. Stephan Heunis‏ @fmrwhy Feb 22
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      Q about open/closed reviewing: article was uploaded as preprint, submitted to journal with closed review, then rejected based on 1st round reviews. Do you think it's acceptible to paraphrase reviewer feedback and upload it with preprint v2 as context for changes? #openscience

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    2. Dr. Christina Bergmann‏ @chbergma Feb 22
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      I've recently learned that reviews are personal data that cannot be shared without consent, so I think it really depends on the level of paraphrasing. (It might be worth asking a data protection officer for legal details on this, especially if the reviewer came from elsewhere)

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    3. Stephan Heunis‏ @fmrwhy Feb 22
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      Thanks, I hadn't thought of this. Though it makes sense based on the assumption that reviewers in a closed process don't explicitly or implicitly give consent for their reviews to be made public, even if anonymised.

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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Feb 22
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      Replying to @fmrwhy @chbergma

      Can you get their consent and/or can you cite them?

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        2. Stephan Heunis‏ @fmrwhy Feb 22
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          I don't know who they are, so I would have to go through the journal editors as proxy. My guess is it will take a long time to get consent, if it happens at all. Cost benefit tradeoff here suggests i just upload preprint v2 without (paraphrased) reviews for context, i think...

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        3. Dr. Christina Bergmann‏ @chbergma Feb 22
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          I tend to agree.

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        4. Stephan Heunis‏ @fmrwhy Feb 22
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          Semi-related Q: by the same logic, tweeting something like "Reviewer 2 asked us to do [insert new analysis method here] while we already accounted for blabla etc etc [insert frustrated emojis here]" is then violating the reviewer's right to keep personal data private?

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        5. Dr. Christina Bergmann‏ @chbergma Feb 22
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          I think saying something like "we did this after reviewer request without the number it should be fine" That is part of the implicit contract, I'd say. And it doesn't contain their words or phrasing, right?

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        6. Stephan Heunis‏ @fmrwhy Feb 22
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          Let's say it contains 1 similar word. Or 8. Seems like fertile ground for lots of hair splitting :) i think the bigger issue is consent. By removing similar words or number, we make it harder to identify the reviewer, but doesn’t fix absence of consent. Or am i missing sth?

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        7. Dr. Christina Bergmann‏ @chbergma Feb 22
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          That's really difficult, and I'd really ask an expert, if you have someone around...

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        8. Stephan Heunis‏ @fmrwhy Feb 22
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          We have some GDPR experts at the uni, will ask them at some point. Do you have something to link to wrt reviews being seen as personal data?

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        9. Dr. Christina Bergmann‏ @chbergma Feb 22
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          That was during a talk, so no

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