BTW, as a grad student, if I haven't participated in these discussions yet, it's definitively not because of the tone, though Twitter may not be the most reliable tone transmitter
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Replying to @dherrera1911 @tyrell_turing and
I have to say that in private I get very different stuff from others and I think it's really important to bear in mind the sampling bias here. There are people who don't feel comfortable sharing their perspective and they are not just a few people or just students.
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Replying to @o_guest @dherrera1911 and
It is not only sampling bias. I believe that twitter also changes us. E.g. If you join twitter you will be pro open science soon because you are talking with the users of your stuff. Also may make you into a nicer person because people will call you out.
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Replying to @KordingLab @o_guest and
Tweets are like splinter of salience and valence modulation that quickly coalesce into what reflects robust motifs. Even on issues I actually don't really care about, I feel this pull to form opinions on them, despite knowing that what I've been exposed to is a bad basis for it
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Replying to @marcolin91 @KordingLab and
Some of the coolest and most interesting people I know are purely connections I made through science Twitter, while other friendships have been created w people who I barely met offline... There are Nazis though on here too, genuine fascists, and I do mean within our fields...
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Replying to @o_guest @marcolin91 and
I've also been invited to stuff that they're absolutely no way I would have without Twitter. It's a strange place, but we have to be aware of the nasty stuff too. Because even despite all this lovely social and professional stuff, I was considering leaving Twitter in 2017...
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Replying to @o_guest @marcolin91 and
It really was such a terrible experience. And I mean within science Twitter. There are some very horrible views and behaviours, which I have a thick skin to interpersonally but no tolerance for on a higher level.
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Replying to @o_guest @marcolin91 and
And the reason it happens is because people don't notice, and through ignorance and inaction really exclusive spaces that harm are formed. I don't want to contribute to a space even indirectly which is even 1% toxic without calling it out.
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Replying to @o_guest @marcolin91 and
I've had to leave a couple of toxic academic environments. They shared the characteristic that any discussion would devolve into a small group of male professors literally yelling at each other. If you're in that group or can imagine joining it, that can be a lot of fun, I gather
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Once, when I tried to bring up some of the more heinous aspects of their culture, I was literally asked to leave, essentially for not assimilating. Basically 'play by our rules or gtfo'
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I literally just touched on this with somebody offline. If you engage in "high-level" exclusionary conversations without making an effort to reverse or address the exclusion, you're part of the problem.
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You're literally creating, for lack of a better metaphor, the adult version of parents talking about the stock exchange on front of tweens. Both because, like the stock exchange, you haven't bothered to explain what you're on about but also because you see no value in it.
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And you're doing it in public, in a small group, with an audience, whatever, so it's a show of strength whether you intend it or not. You're literally saying "I can literally exclude you non-participants just by talking to my friends".
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