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    1. Hannimal  🇪🇺 🇬🇧 🏳️‍🌈‏ @hisotalus Feb 16
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      I used to be certain I would never move back to Finland. Proximity to family, not being a 2nd class citizen and better salaries certainly appeal but most of all it now really seems like #brexit is happening. I am so disappointed that this isn’t the country I moved to decade ago

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    2. Matt Wall #FBPE #StopBrexit‏ @m_wall Feb 16
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      I'm so sorry Hanna. I'm distraught that this is not the country I grew up in, or at least, not the one I thought I grew up in.

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    3. Hannimal  🇪🇺 🇬🇧 🏳️‍🌈‏ @hisotalus Feb 16
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      I know. I know many people born here are disappointed, sad and desperate too. We are in this together, its hard for us migrants but it’s also hard for those who are liberal and want the future of this country to be open, accepting and diverse, and to endorse the values we have

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    4. Matt Wall #FBPE #StopBrexit‏ @m_wall Feb 16
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      We seriously considered leaving at one point. Hope we don't regret the decision to stay...

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    5. Mark Cross‏ @DrMCross Feb 16
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      I cajoled Jon to leave London in 2005 d/t my 40th year existential crisis. We left a fab Brick lane centred life & great jobs, in a united, connected London post 7/7. Australia is now home. London is always missed. London how I remember it. Pre-#Brexit woes. Mx

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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Feb 16
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      I seem to be in a minority here but I don't see Brexit as a singular event. And yes, this is where I moved to more than a decade ago, it's not changed. The people who voted brexit in 2016 where the eurosceptics that scared me when I loved here in 2006.

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        2. Matt Wall #FBPE #StopBrexit‏ @m_wall Feb 16
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          Replying to @o_guest @DrMCross @hisotalus

          There's always been an element of that (particularly in the Tory party) but it was an undercurrent until a few years ago. At least, that's how I perceived it anyway - metropolitan filter bubble maybe. There has definitely been a shift in the last few years though.

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        3. Hannimal  🇪🇺 🇬🇧 🏳️‍🌈‏ @hisotalus Feb 17
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          It’s not just how you perceived it. A few weeks ago there was a paper circulating about this. Five years ago British people didn’t care about Eu.

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        4. Matt Wall #FBPE #StopBrexit‏ @m_wall Feb 17
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          Yes, exactly. People didn't care that much until they were told they had to.

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        5. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Feb 17
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          I disagree. I really do disagree. My experience moving to the UK (originally York) was a constant barrage of anti-EU stuff. It didn't get detected because the UK-born people have been drip fed it slowly over decades.

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        6. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Feb 17
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          What I am saying though is more nuanced than British people caring about EU. It is a set of specific steps and I noticed the media coverage before it culminated in "British people care about the EU". Specific steps need to be taken in order to turn the tide of public perception.

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        7. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Feb 17
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          The fact than many didn't notice is something I question though. Yes, maybe you all in this thread didn't notice, but I know plenty who did. They just didn't talk about it with you and don't tweet about it because of their exhaustion with this issue.

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        8. Hannimal  🇪🇺 🇬🇧 🏳️‍🌈‏ @hisotalus Feb 17
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          I absolutely share this experience - despite being white. When people have mistaken me for being polish they’ve been less than welcoming, well before referendum. But that was an anti-foreign sentiment which is a different issue, albeit with considerable overlap

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        9. Hannimal  🇪🇺 🇬🇧 🏳️‍🌈‏ @hisotalus Feb 17
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          I think you may have misconstrued what I was saying or maybe I expressed myself wrong - EU was a non-issue previously in the sense that asking people about big issues facing U.K, very few considered EU an issue until Cameron brought it on the table. I don’t think anyone is

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        2. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Feb 16
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          Not sure if I'm staying but it's definitely sadly what I signed up for. For me "home", where I grew up, was never an option because of how bad it is there. UK has always been the lesser of the two evils I had to choose from realistically.

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        3. Hannimal  🇪🇺 🇬🇧 🏳️‍🌈‏ @hisotalus Feb 17
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          I see what you’re saying but leaving the EU was never seriously on the table pre-referendum. British people largely didn’t care about the EU and there were many fewer Euroskeptics than there are now. Also I think calling them skeptics is generous. Sure some are but majority are

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        4. Hannimal  🇪🇺 🇬🇧 🏳️‍🌈‏ @hisotalus Feb 17
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          not skeptical, they’re angry. And they are directing the anger about issues our own government is responsible for (austerity, tax evasion, immigration, crime) at the EU. Being skeptical implies there is some reason and thought.

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        5. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Feb 17
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          Yes, it's generous but I know no other term that will explain it you/others than "Euroscepticism" (I see you used a k, which is a nice anti-UK touch — haha).

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        6. Hannimal  🇪🇺 🇬🇧 🏳️‍🌈‏ @hisotalus Feb 17
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          It’s the autocorrect! It only knows skeptic, not sceptic

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        2. Eric Lawton‏ @Eric0Lawton Feb 16
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          It hasn't even changed much, in that respect, since I left in 1972. The myths of Rule Britannia and Wartime Spirit, taught as history and reinforced everywhere, leave most white Brits living in a fantasy world.

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        3. Mark Cross‏ @DrMCross Feb 16
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          Replying to @Eric0Lawton @o_guest and

          I certainly wasn’t implying Rule Britannia. Rather a London very part of Europe. Dusting itself off after 7/7. I’m a South African raised, British heritage Australian citizen.A gay Dr who’s more aligned with Asia Pacific & her peoples than notions of mother country jingoism! Mx

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        4. Eric Lawton‏ @Eric0Lawton Feb 16
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          I didn't think you were implying that and don't see how I implied that you did. To be more clear, I was referring to views adopted in British secondary school history syllabus and the majority of popular culture.

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        5. Hannimal  🇪🇺 🇬🇧 🏳️‍🌈‏ @hisotalus Feb 17
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          Replying to @Eric0Lawton @DrMCross and

          There is definitely a big national ego over here. In the Uk they think we are still seen as a super power - the rest of the world has moved on.

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        6. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Feb 17
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          UK history is a series of very serious crimes and I don't care for the argument that says "other nations did bad things too" at all. They think, cos they are taught this, the crimes done under colonialism are something to be forgotten...

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        7. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Feb 17
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          while for example it's 2019 and SBAs still exist in Cyprus. 🙄

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        8. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Feb 17
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          I predict somebody will tell me that since I hate the UK so much I should leave. 🤣

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        9. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Feb 17
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          Replying to @o_guest @hisotalus and

          I which I say the classic: "I am here because you were there."

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        10. End of conversation

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