I used to be certain I would never move back to Finland. Proximity to family, not being a 2nd class citizen and better salaries certainly appeal but most of all it now really seems like #brexit is happening. I am so disappointed that this isn’t the country I moved to decade ago
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There's always been an element of that (particularly in the Tory party) but it was an undercurrent until a few years ago. At least, that's how I perceived it anyway - metropolitan filter bubble maybe. There has definitely been a shift in the last few years though.
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It’s not just how you perceived it. A few weeks ago there was a paper circulating about this. Five years ago British people didn’t care about Eu.
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Yes, exactly. People didn't care that much until they were told they had to.
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I disagree. I really do disagree. My experience moving to the UK (originally York) was a constant barrage of anti-EU stuff. It didn't get detected because the UK-born people have been drip fed it slowly over decades.
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What I am saying though is more nuanced than British people caring about EU. It is a set of specific steps and I noticed the media coverage before it culminated in "British people care about the EU". Specific steps need to be taken in order to turn the tide of public perception.
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The fact than many didn't notice is something I question though. Yes, maybe you all in this thread didn't notice, but I know plenty who did. They just didn't talk about it with you and don't tweet about it because of their exhaustion with this issue.
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I absolutely share this experience - despite being white. When people have mistaken me for being polish they’ve been less than welcoming, well before referendum. But that was an anti-foreign sentiment which is a different issue, albeit with considerable overlap
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I think you may have misconstrued what I was saying or maybe I expressed myself wrong - EU was a non-issue previously in the sense that asking people about big issues facing U.K, very few considered EU an issue until Cameron brought it on the table. I don’t think anyone is
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Not sure if I'm staying but it's definitely sadly what I signed up for. For me "home", where I grew up, was never an option because of how bad it is there. UK has always been the lesser of the two evils I had to choose from realistically.
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I see what you’re saying but leaving the EU was never seriously on the table pre-referendum. British people largely didn’t care about the EU and there were many fewer Euroskeptics than there are now. Also I think calling them skeptics is generous. Sure some are but majority are
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not skeptical, they’re angry. And they are directing the anger about issues our own government is responsible for (austerity, tax evasion, immigration, crime) at the EU. Being skeptical implies there is some reason and thought.
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Yes, it's generous but I know no other term that will explain it you/others than "Euroscepticism" (I see you used a k, which is a nice anti-UK touch — haha).
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It’s the autocorrect! It only knows skeptic, not sceptic
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It hasn't even changed much, in that respect, since I left in 1972. The myths of Rule Britannia and Wartime Spirit, taught as history and reinforced everywhere, leave most white Brits living in a fantasy world.
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I certainly wasn’t implying Rule Britannia. Rather a London very part of Europe. Dusting itself off after 7/7. I’m a South African raised, British heritage Australian citizen.A gay Dr who’s more aligned with Asia Pacific & her peoples than notions of mother country jingoism! Mx
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I didn't think you were implying that and don't see how I implied that you did. To be more clear, I was referring to views adopted in British secondary school history syllabus and the majority of popular culture.
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There is definitely a big national ego over here. In the Uk they think we are still seen as a super power - the rest of the world has moved on.
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UK history is a series of very serious crimes and I don't care for the argument that says "other nations did bad things too" at all. They think, cos they are taught this, the crimes done under colonialism are something to be forgotten...
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while for example it's 2019 and SBAs still exist in Cyprus.

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I predict somebody will tell me that since I hate the UK so much I should leave.

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I which I say the classic: "I am here because you were there."
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