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    1. Manjari Narayan‏ @NeuroStats Feb 16
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      Replying to @IrisVanRooij @ProfData and

      I am so frustrated by this sort of thing. I don't know if this simply a fundamental human limitation we should accept or a brokenness of science that everyone has accepted as the norm.

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    2. Manjari Narayan‏ @NeuroStats Feb 16
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      Replying to @NeuroStats @IrisVanRooij and

      It is hardly a bad thing that so many quantitative researchers in applied sciences re-discovered PCA or some variation for themselves. True/useful things will always be re-discovered over and over.

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    3. Manjari Narayan‏ @NeuroStats Feb 16
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      Replying to @NeuroStats @IrisVanRooij and

      On the other hand, I find it unforgivable in the age of google scholar, that someone didn't bother to use better search terms to cite relevant competing literature. Almost guaranteed that you can publish a "new" method in a place like Nat. Comm. without citing relevant sub-field.

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    4. Esther Mondragón‏ @twitemp1 Feb 16
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      Replying to @NeuroStats @IrisVanRooij and

      Research in some areas, particularly those that are no longer fashionable is very often ignored by those who, being aware of it, have an interest to do so; as a consequence, young generations reinvent the wheel.

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    5. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Feb 16
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      Replying to @twitemp1 @NeuroStats and

      I doubt they can't do Google Scholar. I think it's something more systemic.

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    6. Aidan Horner‏ @aidanhorner Feb 16
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      Replying to @o_guest @twitemp1 and

      Maybe, but don't forget - "never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity". Anyway, I have an early start with 2 young children, so I can't continue this interesting discussion. I look forward to >100 notifications in the morning!

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    7. Iris van Rooij‏ @IrisVanRooij Feb 16
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      Replying to @aidanhorner @o_guest and

      Good night Aidan! While you're off my first contribution to those 100 notifications will be this (I try to avoid ableist word): cluelessness can be one of the biggest malice. As if that isn't systematic. Most systematic problems don't come from outright malice but carelessness.

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    8. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Feb 16
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      Replying to @IrisVanRooij @aidanhorner and

      I'm not saying there's malice. Just like the existence of sexisn in our doesn't mean I think everybody in it is evil.

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    9. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Feb 16
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      Replying to @o_guest @IrisVanRooij and

      *Our society!

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    10. Iris van Rooij‏ @IrisVanRooij Feb 16
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      Replying to @o_guest @aidanhorner and

      It’s what I meant as well :)

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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Feb 16
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      Replying to @IrisVanRooij @aidanhorner and

      I find the dichotomy of malice vs ignorance (to avoid the ableist term) a misplaced thing when talking about systems. Science the system, the social enterprise, can't do either malice or ignorance. It's a system!

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        2. Iris van Rooij‏ @IrisVanRooij Feb 16
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          Replying to @o_guest @aidanhorner and

          I agree that ignorance is not a system property, but a system can select for it or incentivize it (as per @bradpwyble ‘s earlier tweet), and that in turn can in part uphold a system. As in circular causality.

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        3. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Feb 16
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          Replying to @IrisVanRooij @aidanhorner and

          Absolutely. And to be charitable to Aidan he means "people in the system". I would say though that it's not relevant for system-wide criticism to know either way. I have had experiences when I'm excluded or called people out and the reactions are very telling FWIW.

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        1. Esther Mondragón‏ @twitemp1 Feb 16
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          Replying to @o_guest @IrisVanRooij and

          perhaps neither malice nor stupidity, but I doubt it is the result of simply naivety

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        1. Marco lin‏ @marcolin91 Feb 16
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          Replying to @o_guest @IrisVanRooij and

          A socio(-cultural) system is nothing but its causal reality in relation to its social substrate. It cannot intrinsically be malicious, but it can intrinsically contribute to such a thing. Even if effected by the substrate, the cause can be seen as a (sub)system's property

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