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    Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Feb 2
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    Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ Retweeted academic primo

    Wow, in the USA Ph.D. students can negotiate more funding? Wild. No wonder it's such an unequal place. 😒https://twitter.com/its_Serrano/status/1090309131678838785 …

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    academic primo @its_Serrano
    As PhD programs send out admission decisions, please let your first-gen students of color know that they can negotiate more funding before accepting an offer. I deferred at another campus to apply a 2nd time because I had no clue I could do this.
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      2. academic primo‏ @its_Serrano Feb 2
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        Replying to @o_guest

        If you read the thread and responses to the tweet, you will see that some of us (often students of color) come from low income families and use this as an opportunity to ask for assistance with moving expenses, guaranteed TAships, etc.

        1 reply 1 retweet 7 likes
      3. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Feb 3
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        Replying to @its_Serrano

        That is definitely a silver-lining but it's still upsetting, especially since some people might not even know about this.

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      4. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Feb 3
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        Replying to @o_guest @its_Serrano

        That was your point of course!

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      2. Restless dragon deprived of sufficient enrichment‏ @sciliz Feb 3
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        Replying to @o_guest

        Honestly people pushing to get $25k a year instead of $21k isnt what makes it unequal ;-) it may be a symptom of a weird cultural view on money though!

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      3. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Feb 3
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        Replying to @sciliz

        That's not what I mean at all. I mean the fact that you all don't get a good wage and have to negotiate makes an unequal playing as some people are better at asking for stuff and getting it than others.

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      4. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Feb 3
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        Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ Retweeted Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ

        As I said here...https://twitter.com/o_guest/status/1091812813201440769 …

        Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ added,

        Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ @o_guest
        Replying to @sabahzero
        It's kind of upsetting to think (in the UK this is controlled) that you can negotiate this. Some people *ehem* will know and be equipped.
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      2. Terry McGlynn‏Verified account @hormiga Feb 2
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        Some places do this, especially ones that are not quite the most prestigious but really want to up their diversity numbers and poach students from the most prestigious unis. It’s all a hot mess

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      3. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Feb 2
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        Replying to @hormiga

        Mess indeed!

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      2. Sabah Ul-Hasan, PhD‏ @sabahzero Feb 2
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        Replying to @o_guest

        Had no idea this was an option!

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      3. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Feb 2
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        It's kind of upsetting to think (in the UK this is controlled) that you can negotiate this. Some people *ehem* will know and be equipped.

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      2. jordan t. thevenow-harrison‏ @jtth Feb 2
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        Replying to @o_guest

        Not many public ones can. At those you can negotiate your % appointment (roughly the hours you're expected to work) but the rates are pretty fixed for TA/RA positions.

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      3. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Feb 2
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        Replying to @jtth

        Thanks for clarifying!

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      4. Michael Ekstrand‏ @mdekstrand Feb 3
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        Likely also depends on discipline — both here & UMN, stipends are standardized within the department or college. Almost everyone funded has the standard 50% appointment. I’m not aware of any funding sources for e.g. moving.

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      2. Prof Powell‏ @NushPowell Feb 2
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        Replying to @o_guest

        This is by no means universally true! The thread it came from was multi-disciplinary and aimed at the ethos of, “can’t hurt to ask” — many of the anecdotes were from areas that don’t routinely offer full funding, for example.

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      3. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Feb 3
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        Replying to @NushPowell

        The thread is great. I just was very surprised.

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      2. Mayuri Hana Vaish‏ @HanaMayuri Feb 4
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        It’s only for first gen students of color. And PhDs are one of the most underpaid students, please give them a break.

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      3. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Feb 4
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        Replying to @HanaMayuri

        That's not my point. Of course, yes, we deserve more pay.

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      2. Joel Snyder‏ @joelsnyder12 Feb 3
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        Replying to @o_guest @MichaelProulx

        That's not true at all schools and programs. In our program, our funding is set by the Grad College, and the only way to offer students more funding is if the lab is going to fund the student using an external grant, instead of university funding.

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      3. Michael J. Proulx‏ @MichaelProulx Feb 3
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        Definitely not the case for all! But it is there in some and, as you note, there are disparities available almost everywhere (eg, with grant funding).

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      4. Joel Snyder‏ @joelsnyder12 Feb 4
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        Yes, disparities all around. One I've heard is whether the program funds students in the early years of the program, the later years of the program, both, or neither. Part of this I think is administrators trying to get the PI to fund students, rather than the university.

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