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    1. Sanjay Srivastava‏ @hardsci Jan 30
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      I wrote this in part to challenge what we think success is. But to people saying this list is incompatible with conventional success: Is it really? In objective, concrete time, is this too much? Or is that just the voice of fucked-up overwork culture in your head?https://twitter.com/hardsci/status/1090670156672462849 …

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      Sanjay Srivastava @hardsci
      HOW TO SUCCEED IN ACADEMIA: 1. Get enough sleep 2. Eat well 3. Exercise 4. Stay hydrated 5. Spend time with family and friends 6. Stand up for the working conditions that allow you and others to do #1-5 7. IFF you've done all the above, work hard for a reasonable # of hours/wk
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    2. Gordon Pennycook‏ @GordPennycook Jan 30
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      Perhaps I can mediate. For a grad student/postdoc "how to succeed in academia" = "how to get a job in academia". Any list that doesn't start with "get lucky" is probably wrong. But this is a good list for "how to succeed in academia assuming you already have job security"

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    3. Gordon Pennycook‏ @GordPennycook Jan 30
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      I should add that its not reasonable for *us* (or anyone other than the individual in question) to say that success must = getting a tenure track faculty job. I'm just taking the perspective of people who want that (which is many, many more people than who will achieve it).

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    4. Sanjay Srivastava‏ @hardsci Jan 30
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      1. The list is not so time-consuming. It leaves time for lots of productive work if those are your priorities

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    5. Sanjay Srivastava‏ @hardsci Jan 30
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      2. Ignoring these will make work time less effective in the long and sometimes short run, as people who have lost work time to poor health, depression, anxiety, or exhaustion can tell you

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    6. Sanjay Srivastava‏ @hardsci Jan 30
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      3. I am happy to add a large random uncertainty term around all this because I am a social scientist and of course I do

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    7. Gordon Pennycook‏ @GordPennycook Jan 30
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      Let me put it to you this way: What proportion of grad students who follow this list will get a job?

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    8. Sanjay Srivastava‏ @hardsci Jan 30
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      A job in academia? Low (b/c base rates), but not as low as people who internalize advice to sacrifice their well-being

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    9. Sanjay Srivastava‏ @hardsci Jan 30
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      Now let me ask you - where do the people who say “I risked my well being through overwork and I’m still in academia so you should too” fit into an analysis of survivor bias?

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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jan 31
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      I've watched some of the most selfish and nasty people I know get promising jobs in academia. The nicer people seem to finish last or leave academia. What do you suggest is going on? Just my small N?

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        1. Sergio Graziosi‏ @GraziosiSergio Jan 31
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          Add my small N as well. Hypercompetition favours the ruthless, shouldn't surprise anyone. Disclaimer: I'm convinced that my PhD supervisor was/is a sociopath doing really bad science, so my pre-existing view is necessarily negative. (Didn't finish said PhD 🙄)

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