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    1. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jan 31
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      Replying to @o_guest @chbergma and

      Another option is to return to just being "women in modeling", perhaps? But the binarism of that kind of upsets me. But it would reduce the worry that we are treating all minorities in modeling the same? FWIW I'm in every minority mentioned.

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    2. Dr Aidan Budd  🐈‏ @AidanBudd Jan 31
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      Replying to @o_guest @chbergma and

      I've looked in/around similar issues myself re: lists of people for a while. If I were to do something like this now, I would (i) consult with a lawyer specifically re GDPR (ii) start over again, and only include people who self-nominate/volunteer to be on it >

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    3. ☞Cassidy‏ @phonologist Jan 31
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      Replying to @AidanBudd @o_guest and

      This is good advice -- I really think self-vol is crucial for many reasons. One of them being tied to identity-- I've been really uncomfortable when people slap me onto lists of "women in CL/AI/etc." Despite their good intentions

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    4. Dr Aidan Budd  🐈‏ @AidanBudd Jan 31
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      Replying to @phonologist @shapkaa and

      Absolutely. I only have one public Twitter list, and I only add people to it when I have their permission to do so, for specifically this reason.

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    5. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jan 31
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      Replying to @AidanBudd @shapkaa and

      FWIW I can take it down if you two feel this way, but I'm a bit worried as people use it to find others and offer them jobs.

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    6. Dr Aidan Budd  🐈‏ @AidanBudd Jan 31
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      Replying to @o_guest @shapkaa and

      As a non-queer man (allocishet) I don't have any valid take on this, IMHO - it's only that when talking with others about lists of this kind (e.g. around bioinformatics) that what I describe seems to be a consensus-ish around the opinions I've heard from others.

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    7. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jan 31
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      Replying to @AidanBudd @shapkaa and

      What you describe though isn't what I've done. I didn't collect any data for each person, merely that they belong to some of the minority categories in modeling. If you think it's a problem, I respect that and I offer to take the list down.

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    8. ☞Cassidy‏ @phonologist Jan 31
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      Replying to @o_guest @AidanBudd and

      I think a big issue is that you said some folks were added against their consent. Perhaps if you have the bandwidth, contacting folks and asking if they're okay with being on such a list could be helpful? I think the list is fine if ppl consent to being on it.

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    9. ☞Cassidy‏ @phonologist Jan 31
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      Replying to @phonologist @o_guest and

      I personally don't want to be laterally packed into a single "other" category, which is why I haven't volunteered my info, but others may not mind. I'm many things -- first gen scholar, low SES, queer, disabled, neurodivergent. Minority as a single label kind of blurs all of that

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    10. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jan 31
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      Replying to @phonologist @shapkaa and

      Thanks for the input.

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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jan 31
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      Replying to @o_guest @shapkaa and

      I'm low on spoons today due to migraine and fibro, but I'll have a serious think about all this.

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        2. ☞Cassidy‏ @phonologist Jan 31
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          Replying to @o_guest @AidanBudd and

          Feel better! I have fibro too, so I totally get how taxing that is. I've been having a flare up myself recently and dreading doing just about anything. Feel free to dm if you'd wanna discuss anything

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        3. Dr. Christina Bergmann‏ @chbergma Jan 31
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          Replying to @phonologist @shapkaa and

          Feel better the 2nd, and you both take care. I will think about being clearer on how to remove /edit your entry and how we added people. Transparency is awesome after all. This is a really important discussion to have, so thank you again!!

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        4. Dr Aidan Budd  🐈‏ @AidanBudd Jan 31
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          Replying to @chbergma @shapkaa and

          Scrabbling around at the bottom of my spoon draw m'self ATM - wishing us all that we're feeling better, with a bunch more spoons, very soon. And, you know, a general "thank you".

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