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    1. ☞Cassidy‏ @phonologist Jan 30
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      Replying to @phonologist @chbergma @BayesForDays

      Also, I support the idea of gathering community for increased visibility of minoritized scholars. However, we can't laterally reduce every category of minoritization into one. (Cont.)

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    2. ☞Cassidy‏ @phonologist Jan 30
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      Replying to @phonologist @chbergma @BayesForDays

      Intersectionality is really important, and ignoring complex identity to create a uniform "minority' category only serves to erase and make the categories "default/other." So, it would be good to allow ppl to disclose which groups they belong to if they are comfortable doing so.

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    3. Dr. Christina Bergmann‏ @chbergma Jan 30
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      Replying to @phonologist @shapkaa @BayesForDays

      Thank you, that's super constructive and helpful, I really appreciate this and we (@o_guest and I) are always eager to improve this list. I like the idea of optional disclosure, but am a bit worried whether it might create odd dynamics and feel compulsory. But why not try...

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    4. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jan 31
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      Replying to @chbergma @shapkaa @BayesForDays

      I'm neurodiverse/atypical myself. Fixed. 😊

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    5. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jan 31
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      Replying to @o_guest @chbergma and

      As for disclosure, I'm not sure what the legal status is of storing people's characteristics (some of which are protected legally in the UK at least) is under GDPR and on and on? And we didn't ask for emails again for that reason, so everything on that site is public already.

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    6. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jan 31
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      Replying to @o_guest @chbergma and

      Would like to learn more though! One thing that is worrying is that some additions to the list were not done so by the people themselves (we have to assume this true as it's open to anybody adding anybody, we don't have accounts or emails attached).

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    7. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jan 31
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      Replying to @o_guest @chbergma and

      If the only solution is to start again, delete the list in a sense and tweet asking for a do-over asking for characteristics and email addresses, maybe it's worth looking into?

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    8. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jan 31
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      Replying to @o_guest @chbergma and

      Another option is to return to just being "women in modeling", perhaps? But the binarism of that kind of upsets me. But it would reduce the worry that we are treating all minorities in modeling the same? FWIW I'm in every minority mentioned.

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    9. ☞Cassidy‏ @phonologist Jan 31
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      Replying to @o_guest @chbergma @BayesForDays

      I know people on that list who are nonbinary, so that concerns me too -- I'm nonbinary and "women in X" groups make me severely uncomfortable/feel excluded.

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    10. ☞Cassidy‏ @phonologist Jan 31
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      Replying to @phonologist @o_guest and

      Like, more than one person. Not gonna name names since the info isn't there; but I agree w you that binarism isn't the way to go

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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jan 31
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      Replying to @phonologist @shapkaa and

      What is, in your opinion?

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        2. ☞Cassidy‏ @phonologist Jan 31
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          Replying to @o_guest @chbergma @BayesForDays

          I mean, I'm not a lawyer but I fail to see the issue with people self-disclosing how they identify, with the option to opt-out/remove it if necessary? It would be nice to not have to sift through an entire list to find ppl like me, if that makes sense.

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        3. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest Jan 31
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          Replying to @phonologist @shapkaa and

          Because GDPR probably would have issues with how and where we store the data.

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